Massachusetts Election Day - Page 4

Sam · #31 01-19-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak

Obamacare is dead, may it rest alongside Hilliarycare!!! And may all the far leftist be swept out of public office!!

AMEN

Nitehawk013 · #32 01-20-2010, 05:29 AM

Let us all hope Brown is able to kill Obamacare.

Sadly, the rumor now is that Voinovich, the coward hack from my great state of Ohio, is willing to deal with Obama and vote for the bill in order to maintain the 60 vote majority even if Brown opposes it. Voinovich is in his final term, has always been a spinless weasel IMO and thinks it is better to do something about healthcare by passing this nonsense than to continue arguing and doing nothing.

deacon blues · #33 01-20-2010, 05:46 AM

Great words from the VICTOR, Scott Brown: "We are going to spend money on weapons to defeat terroriats, not on lawyers to defend them!"

His campaign focused on terror, taxes and healthcare. Obama, although increasing troop levels in Afghanistan, appears weak on terror with the Cmas Day bomber, closing Gitmo and bringing the terrorist prisoners to New York to put on trial. The proposed increase in taxes is a vulnerable spot. The healthcare bill is increasingly unpopular and yet it appears these guys are going to rush this thing through.

Bill Clinton got the message of the Republican Revolution in 1994, adjusted his politics to be more centrist and survived to win in 1996. I don't know if these guys: Obama, Emmanuel and Axelrod are politically savvy enough to learn the lesson of this Massachusetts upset and realize their political future is in the balanace. They're idealogues. They are driven to alter the landscape of basic American life. Saul Alinsky, Jeremiah Wright, Karl Marx, the Weather Underground, and a pletheora of other leftist individuals and movements have shaped these guys into who they are.

They rode a wave of American discontentment with the Republican Party and George W's free spending and the bursting of the housing bubble. The GOP ran a moderate candidate (a recipe for losing a la Ford, Bush I, Dole) who wasn't aggressive enough with Obama. They squelched the best thing they had going for them: Sarah Palin. The economy bottomed out a month and a half before the election. The perfect storm for the Dems.

I don't believe this administration will adjust between now and November. Their losses will be huge. They will not learn by 2012. This will be a one term president.

n david · #34 01-20-2010, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Scott Brown ran as an independent not as a republican. There is still hope for the democrats.

Nice try.

Brown ran as a Republican; he was vocal about being the deciding vote to defeat BHO's healthcare; he ran as a war hawk, a fiscal and social conservative. He was not coy or hesitant to show what party he ran with ... McCain helped his campaign and Guiliani came out to one of his events.

Make no mistake about it, you can't spin it. He ran as a Republican.

What happened last night to the Democrats would have happened to the Republicans if the roles were reversed. The Indie voters were sick of one-party rule, lack of transparency ... and the voters in Mass, who have their own version of gov't healthcare, made a statement against BHO's healthcare by voting for the Republican who will (if possible) vote against it.

deacon blues · #35 01-20-2010, 06:30 AM

The Spin Doctors on MSNBC are trying hard to say that this loss is about anti-incumbency or anger at the Dems for not being aggressive enough with liberal policies or blah blah blah. What they are very careful to say is that this has nothing to do with President Obama. They aren't going to believe that its ALL about Obama!

Esther · #36 01-20-2010, 06:34 AM

Thank God for this victory!

Jermyn Davidson · #37 01-20-2010, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Esther

Thank God for this victory!

I echo your joy!

Today is a great day to be an American!

There will never be a need for bloody revolutions as long as we have our freedom to vote.

I am glad Scott Brown won!

As much as I see a need for Healthcare Reform, it was never my intent to be forced to pay the equivalent of an extra car note for it.

Jermyn Davidson · #38 01-20-2010, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

The Spin Doctors on MSNBC are trying hard to say that this loss is about anti-incumbency or anger at the Dems for not being aggressive enough with liberal policies or blah blah blah. What they are very careful to say is that this has nothing to do with President Obama. They aren't going to believe that its ALL about Obama!

It's not all about the President, in part yes, but not all.

He'd better believe that this stunning upset was indeed a referendum on Healthcare Reform as it is presently developing.

He'd better believe it and adjust, even if MSNBC doesn't know it.

n david · #39 01-20-2010, 07:24 AM

I agree there should be some kind of reform. Part of the reason for high costs is due to insurance hospitals and doctors have to carry because of lawsuits. Tort reform should be on the table as a part of real healthcare reform.

I highly doubt this administration will seriously consider tort reform. Democrats complain that the GOP is lock-step with drug makers and healthcare providers, and the GOP complains that the Democrats are lock-step with lawyers. Because of this, neither party is going to do anything meaningful with regards to tort reform or healthcare.

Nitehawk013 · #40 01-20-2010, 07:27 AM

Over 50% of those polled after the Brown win said they voted for Brown in order to stop Obamacare. That should send the message to Obama LOUD AND CLEAR!