IHOP Baptizing in Jesus Name - Page 9

nahkoe · #81 01-23-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The sermon on the mount is being given great importance at IHOP. Hours of prayer, days of fasting, witnessing on the streets. To them the ONE THING is loving the Lord Your God with all your heart. Not since the Jesus Movement of the 70's have I seen young people so willing to serve YHWH. But having seen that movement and this one I am more impressed with this.

This is kind of where I'm finding myself. The passion is contagious. And God has changed me. Period. Whatever you wanna say about the movement, I don't care. My God has changed me..He's put a fire in my heart, a passion in my life, a burning need to share His love with other people and a boldness to do so with intense compassion.

And..this is coming from someone who a few weeks ago was a huge skeptic of the movement. WOW...God....

pelathais · #82 01-23-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

From what Im reading I dont see any relationship between the way Oneness has taught discipleship and what they are doing. I have noticed practically NO DISCIPLESHIP teaching period among Apostolics. In the past they have and some still do teach a theology of outward dress. To their credit they have taught prayer. Some will probably say I am over generalizing.

The sermon on the mount is being given great importance at IHOP. Hours of prayer, days of fasting, witnessing on the streets. To them the ONE THING is loving the Lord Your God with all your heart. Not since the Jesus Movement of the 70's have I seen young people so willing to serve YHWH. But having seen that movement and this one I am more impressed with this.

When I said "discipleship" I meant it in the sense of using a lot of social coercion to get converts to line up with the church's teachings.

I have no idea what IHOP does today, but Bickle was a part of a group that went a bit too far. I wouldn't say they were a cult like some did, but the pressure to conform and all was paramount.

Michael The Disciple · #83 01-23-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe

This is kind of where I'm finding myself. The passion is contagious. And God has changed me. Period. Whatever you wanna say about the movement, I don't care. My God has changed me..He's put a fire in my heart, a passion in my life, a burning need to share His love with other people and a boldness to do so with intense compassion.

And..this is coming from someone who a few weeks ago was a huge skeptic of the movement. WOW...God....

Are you talking about the IHOP move? Wow praise the Lord! Yes Sister the passion is wonderful just what I have been desiring.

Michael The Disciple · #84 01-23-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother David

When I said "discipleship" I meant it in the sense of using a lot of social coercion to get converts to line up with the church's teachings.

I have no idea what IHOP does today, but Bickle was a part of a group that went a bit too far. I wouldn't say they were a cult like some did, but the pressure to conform and all was paramount.

I have said I think Bickle got off before. I know that in at least some areas he has renounced things that were manifest during his earlier days. Having said that I will say this.

Im watching whats happening in the prayer room night after night and I dont remember hearing the name Mike Bickle mentioned once! I dont think its about him so much. He apparently has been the catalyst but it seems to be moving with or without him.

Discipleship is something I have always sought among the Churches. Its been pretty rare in my generation. By it I mean forsaking all to follow Jesus Christ. Thats what Im seeing here that is so impressive.

nahkoe · #85 01-23-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Are you talking about the IHOP move? Wow praise the Lord! Yes Bro the passion is wonderful just what I have been desiring.

Eh..IHOPish.

More Morningstar..but I'm finding the circles overlap quite a bit. I had the opportunity to go to Morningstar last weekend and God.... Wow.

pelathais · #86 01-23-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I have said I think Bickle got off before. I know that in at least some areas he has renounced things that were manifest during his earlier days. Having said that I will say this.

Im watching whats happening in the prayer room night after night and I dont remember hearing the name Mike Bickle mentioned once! I dont think its about him so much. He apparently has been the catalyst but it seems to be moving with or without him.

Discipleship is something I have always sought among the Churches. Its been pretty rare in my generation. By it I mean forsaking all to follow Jesus Christ. Thats what Im seeing here that is so impressive.

I wonder about the logistics of it all. There seems to be always at least a half a dozen people on the platform there at all times. I haven't really taken roll - LOL. But just from my own experiences in the past, this kind of effort would almost necessitate having a large number of people on staff just to fill these roles and to coordinate.

pelathais · #87 01-23-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nahkoe

Eh..IHOPish.

More Morningstar..but I'm finding the circles overlap quite a bit. I had the opportunity to go to Morningstar last weekend and God.... Wow.

What is Morningstar?

nahkoe · #88 01-23-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother David

What is Morningstar?

http://www.morningstarministries.org/

Quite a few of the names associated have come up in the thread...

Hoovie · #89 01-23-2010, 10:11 PM

I am a couple hrs from IHOP. I have heard some good things about them in the past, and I must say I like alot of the praise and Worship stuff they do in those web casts.

I gotta say though, the jerking creeps me out. I can handle an incident or two like that, but when it becomes sort of commonplace I start thinking they are being conditioned...