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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Right it is my opinion. But the point is they were disciples. WHose? John. Baptism is part of the act of making disciples (See Mat 28:19) and so when they heard they were to believe on Jesus they were baptized in Jesus name.
If the 12 were students of the master, I am assuming they too were baptized by the master and commissioned therefor to do the same.
Yes Jesus did not do the baptizing...again who did? The disciples. It makes sense that Jesus baptized them first as part of making them disciples and the disciples then baptized everyone else. The context in which this verse appears does not necessarily mean no other time before that did he also not baptize.
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Yes, but pel's post you quoted quite nailed what I have been trying to say. No matter what all we have is speculation.
Now I also want to say this, baptism in Jesus' name is supposed to be at the very least a symbolic act related to Christ's death, burial and resurrection (or just one of these things if you prefer, it doesn't matter for the point I am about to make). At the most it's supposed to actually be when Christ's blood is applied to our lives.
You want to say it doesn't make sense that Jesus didn't baptize them. But I say that it doesn't make sense that they could have been baptized into a Christian baptism before Christ's death because of either the symbolism or actual application of the blood that baptism is supposed to serve. I say that it makes just as little sense to think that anyones baptism could have been the same before Christs death. If it was then there would have been either no symbolism or no application of the blood for those baptisms before his death, and thus the ones after wouldn't be about those things either. Therefore it seems that any baptism which happened before Christs death is in fact a much different kind than what the apostles baptized people into in the book of Acts