US Missionaries Charged With Kidnapping In Haiti - Page 2

seguidordejesus · #11 02-04-2010, 09:23 PM

Gotta be smart, people. Some people just don't have a clue. A few years back some Japanese tourists were mobbed and set on fire just for being suspected of stealing a kid here in Guatemala. Naive.

n david · #12 02-05-2010, 06:08 AM

I haven't read much on this story. I know the basics.

I'm furious. We've been told, since the earthquake, by the Haitian ambassador, US and UN officials and news correspondents that Haiti is in ruins. That the government has collapsed. That it's chaos with no police, no government to control the people.

Yet suddenly 10 Americans are arrested by police who evidently appeared out of nowhere. They were put into jails that somehow survived the catastrophy, marched into a court that - until a couple days ago - we were told didn't function because the government wasn't functioning. Yet, there's a judge and prosecutor ...

We've been duped! We've been had!

All this money people are sending, all the millions/billions the US is pouring into that country because we were told it was in shambles.

Ridiculous. These people made an error in judgement. From what I've read, there's at least one Haitian citizen - a pastor - who has defended these people and verified their stories. Deport them and don't allow them back....but they shouldn't spend time in jail there.

The best thing BHO and Clinton could do is request these people be deported or if not, cut off funding and aid ... because if the government is working well enough to imprison and prosecute these people, then it should be able to take care of itself from now on.

TJJJ · #13 02-05-2010, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by n david

I haven't read much on this story. I know the basics.

I'm furious. We've been told, since the earthquake, by the Haitian ambassador, US and UN officials and news correspondents that Haiti is in ruins. That the government has collapsed. That it's chaos with no police, no government to control the people.

Yet suddenly 10 Americans are arrested by police who evidently appeared out of nowhere. They were put into jails that somehow survived the catastrophy, marched into a court that - until a couple days ago - we were told didn't function because the government wasn't functioning. Yet, there's a judge and prosecutor ...

We've been duped! We've been had!

All this money people are sending, all the millions/billions the US is pouring into that country because we were told it was in shambles.

Ridiculous. These people made an error in judgement. From what I've read, there's at least one Haitian citizen - a pastor - who has defended these people and verified their stories. Deport them and don't allow them back....but they shouldn't spend time in jail there.

The best thing BHO and Clinton could do is request these people be deported or if not, cut off funding and aid ... because if the government is working well enough to imprison and prosecute these people, then it should be able to take care of itself from now on.

What?

The city of P of P was devastated, yes, but where these folks were taking the kids through was not. It would be like having a earthquake in LA and northern Cali still functioning. Still having a police force and still being able to keep some semblance of law and order in those areas.

As far as taking them back to P of P, I am sure that the places they are keeping them is rough but secure.

You are wrong my friend to think that the whole place has totally disinegrated, that is not true. P of P has been hit hard but not totally gone.

I do not think that this will last too long, but those people will have something to remember a long, long time.....

By the way, do not connect the situation of the earthquake, which is bad, with the situation of these smugglers trying to get children out illegally. Don't connect the two, these folks did wrong and are paying for it.

jfrog · #14 02-05-2010, 08:07 AM

I don't know what their intentions were but I imagine that they were good. So I do feel sorry for them. They were stupid to be down there trying to do whatever it was they were trying to do. It is also kind of sad that when the U.S. government comes to their rescue that they are going to feel as if it was because God made a way for them...

MomOfADramaQn · #15 02-05-2010, 08:19 AM

All I can say is how STUPID can you be. I would LOVE to adopt one of the little kids from over there but how dumb could I be to just go over there and take one. I cannot fathom ANYONE thinking that is OK. If what I read in the news is right, I do feel sorry if there were those on the trip that thought all the proper channels had been followed. I don't have an ounce of pity for the others though -not an ounce

TJJJ · #16 02-05-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MomOfADramaQn

All I can say is how STUPID can you be. I would LOVE to adopt one of the little kids from over there but how dumb could I be to just go over there and take one. I cannot fathom ANYONE thinking that is OK. If what I read in the news is right, I do feel sorry if there were those on the trip that thought all the proper channels had been followed. I don't have an ounce of pity for the others though -not an ounce

I am seeing that the opinion on this forum is weighted to the againsts rather that to the fors!

These people made a bad mistake.

n david · #17 02-05-2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

What?

The city of P of P was devastated, yes, but where these folks were taking the kids through was not. It would be like having a earthquake in LA and northern Cali still functioning. Still having a police force and still being able to keep some semblance of law and order in those areas.

As far as taking them back to P of P, I am sure that the places they are keeping them is rough but secure.

You are wrong my friend to think that the whole place has totally disinegrated, that is not true. P of P has been hit hard but not totally gone.

I do not think that this will last too long, but those people will have something to remember a long, long time.....

By the way, do not connect the situation of the earthquake, which is bad, with the situation of these smugglers trying to get children out illegally. Don't connect the two, these folks did wrong and are paying for it.

The ambassador to Haiti and others have talked about the gov't in shambles and not functioning. Yet, apparently it's functioning well enough to prosecute these people.

We don't know what happened. From the CNN report I read, the gov't and prosecution dropped the more serious charge for a lighter one - and they were quoted as still being unsure of the facts. They don't know if the judge will even prosecute or just let them go, he has three months to decide what to do while they sit in jail.

If these people are evil smugglers who aren't who they claim to be, then they should be prosecuted. If the haitian pastor I've read about can indeed verify their story, then they should be released immediately with apologies.

Cindy · #18 02-05-2010, 08:40 AM

There is more to the story.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...?mod=yhoofront

Sister Alvear · #19 02-05-2010, 10:14 AM

Well...my opinion will be unpopular but I know wht it is to live in a 3rd world country and people trying to give you their kids...40% ofBrazil's children live on the streets others in dire poverty...I do not know thses people or their intentions but until proven other wise I think they were doing what I would have done....tried to find them a home...now if they were kidnapping and selling kids then I have another opinion...

n david · #20 02-05-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

There is more to the story.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...?mod=yhoofront

Thanks for the link.

After reading the article, I'd say these people should be released. They're not smugglers. The leader may have broken a law in regards to paperwork, but I don't believe it warrants years in prison.

It's obvious they have been planning on helping these kids, they're not evil, they're not smugglers. The lady in charge simply didn't complete the process.

In all of this, there's the question of the haitian pastor who helped them. Why hasn't he been arrested for assisting these people? He was the one who set them up with the kids. Have they even questioned him? Seems they're ignoring a crucial key to the case - the Haitian citizen.

I wouldn't be so fast to judge these people. Seems the Haitian gov't is ignoring their own citizen who set up the transaction and is instead rushing to prosecute foreigners to make an example.

I don't see much of a case. But I only can read the news and not interview the people.