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Old 02-14-2010, 10:41 PM
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Re: An Angel Highway?

I just listened to the 10 min clip again.

Here are the things I found disturbing.
1. Mentioned a story regarding someones angel at least 3 times if not more.
2. Attributed angels to Deva Vu.
3. Said prayer would increase your angels power.

The most disturbing thing is that he spent most of 10 minutes telling a fairly large congregation about such things. Why did he feel the need to even preach on these things? Why did he care if people believed they had an angel that looked like them? It's obvious he felt it important that people believed this, so why did he feel it was important?
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:49 PM
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Ohhhhh...you didn't watch the excerpt. LOL!!! You should watch it and THEN comment. It wasn't about Holy Hair.
No I didn't, I was talking about his standard sermon he gives again and again and again.....
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:50 PM
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I just listened to the 10 min clip again.

Here are the things I found disturbing.
1. Mentioned a story regarding someones angel at least 3 times if not more.
2. Attributed angels to Deva Vu.
3. Said prayer would increase your angels power.

The most disturbing thing is that he spent most of 10 minutes telling a fairly large congregation about such things. Why did he feel the need to even preach on these things? Why did he care if people believed they had an angel that looked like them? It's obvious he felt it important that people believed this, so why did he feel it was important?
He's the pastor, clearly he felt it important for his congregation to understand these things. Probably so that they understand his ministry better. For example, if I were in trouble and he said to me "Strengthen your angel." I'd wonder why. After hearing this, I'd know that he intends for me to pray more.

I don't know if our prayers strengthens our angels... but I do believe that it puts us in a place to be strengthened by our angels. You'll find angels ministering to men in prayer throughout Scripture.

The take on our own personal angel who often appears like us is entertaining. Angels can manifest and take whatever shape and form they choose. So my response is... okay... so what?

Now, what exactly is his take on Deva Vu? I know I have my thoughts on it. What are LS's?
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:53 PM
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He's the pastor, clearly he felt it important for his congregation to understand these things. Probably so that they understand his ministry better. For example, if I were in trouble and he said to me "Strengthen your angel." I'd wonder why. After hearing this, I'd know that he intends for me to pray more.

I don't know if our prayers strengthens our angels... but I do believe that it puts us in a place to be strengthened by our angels. You'll find angels ministering to men in prayer throughout Scripture.

The take on our own personal angel who often appears like us is entertaining. Angels can manifest and take whatever shape and form they choose. So my response is... okay... so what?

Now, what exactly is his take on Deva Vu? I know I have my thoughts on it. What are LS's?
So why is he really wanting the congregation to get what all he is saying about angels? What does such teachings do for them?
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:01 PM
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So why is he really wanting the congregation to get what all he is saying about angels? What does such teachings do for them?
My opinion is that he is trying to build up peoples faith so they will do certain things. For Holy Magic Hair it is an extra reason to keep long hair. For angels that look like us it is an appeal to get us to pray more. None of these things are necessarily bad motives (well maybe they hair depending on where you stand on the issue). But, I feel that he is trying build up people on the sand instead of on the solid rock. He tells them to keep long hair because of its power. He tells them to pray because of their angel. The solid rock would be keeping long hair because one beleives the bible teaches such. The solid rock would be praying to get closer to God.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:02 PM
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So why is he really wanting the congregation to get what all he is saying about angels? What does such teachings do for them?
Maybe you should ask him.

What if I could demonstrate that you believe in a form of mysticism and lore?
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My opinion is that he is trying to build up peoples faith so they will do certain things. For Holy Magic Hair it is an extra reason to keep long hair. For angels that look like us it is an appeal to get us to pray more. None of these things are necessarily bad motives (well maybe they hair depending on where you stand on the issue). But, I feel that he is trying build up people on the sand instead of on the solid rock. He tells them to keep long hair because of its power. He tells them to pray because of their angel. The solid rock would be keeping long hair because one beleives the bible teaches such. The solid rock would be praying to get closer to God.
Do you believe in the ministry of angels?
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:05 PM
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Do you believe in the ministry of angels?
I suppose. But what does that have to do with my opinion on why he is doing what he is doing and why that is wrong?
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:06 PM
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jfrog,

I'm willing to wager that you believe in a popular myth that is among us.

Do you believe that Enoch and Elijah were actually translated without dying?
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Maybe you should ask him.

What if I could demonstrate that you believe in a form of mysticism and lore?
You can't. I'm the biggest skeptic of all
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