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02-16-2010, 01:01 PM
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Re: Intelligent Military Tactic?
I heard that at some point in the offensive they were fighting house to house in a sandstorm. wow
I'd like to ask that anyone reading this thread stop at this post and say a short prayer for our brave men and women fighting right now.
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02-16-2010, 01:02 PM
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Re: Intelligent Military Tactic?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Did we really warn the enemy... or did the enemy get a "head's up" in our effort to warn civilians? Just courious.
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Anyone who could get US news or the internet could've read the information. The region, city, timeframe ... it was all available.
Ridiculous.
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02-16-2010, 01:03 PM
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Re: Intelligent Military Tactic?
That is not a military tactic. That is political. No wars are won by allowing the person that was trying to kill you, escape intentionally because they ditched their weapons
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02-16-2010, 01:05 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Intelligent Military Tactic?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I'm former military (U.S. Army, 19K and 19B10). I'm torn because I see the philosophy of being "moral" in war as a just nation. However... the military's job is to kill people and break things. Personally, I think if we deploy our forces the only way to assure absolute victory is to completely unleash them to do what is necessary to get the job done (short of rape). Sadly, it sounds brutal. But it would end the war faster and perhaps save more lives when all is said and done.
I guess that's the horror and hell of war.
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Tell the civi's to leave, that we can't be responsible for their injury and if they stay they can probably expect the worse, level the city, bring in the CBs and make them a better house.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-17-2010, 02:54 PM
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Re: Intelligent Military Tactic?
Most of the major offensives in Iraq were announced way before we did them.
Heck, we began that war that way!
Sadr City-- they were warned.
The troop build up-- they were wanred.
There were other offensives-- even small ones that did not make the news. Our Psyops would let folks know we were coming before we came. Our Psyops would knowingly let everyone know.
It is a military as well as a political tactic. It does work.
Just like Iraq, Afganistan will not be won by guns and fire power alone.
As a former military man with 2 relatively recent combat tours (Afghanistan and Iraq) I stand by the practice of informing the general populous before major offensives.
At first I didn't agree with it, but I've lived it and see the results of this multi-pronged strategy. It is very, very wise.
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02-17-2010, 05:09 PM
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Re: Intelligent Military Tactic?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Did we really warn the enemy... or did the enemy get a "head's up" in our effort to warn civilians? Just courious.
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Did the enemy run and hide in caves until the storm passes by? Seems that some of them are fighting, at least hit and run.
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02-17-2010, 05:11 PM
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crakjak
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Re: Intelligent Military Tactic?
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Most of the major offensives in Iraq were announced way before we did them.
Heck, we began that war that way!
Sadr City-- they were warned.
The troop build up-- they were wanred.
There were other offensives-- even small ones that did not make the news. Our Psyops would let folks know we were coming before we came. Our Psyops would knowingly let everyone know.
It is a military as well as a political tactic. It does work.
Just like Iraq, Afganistan will not be won by guns and fire power alone.
As a former military man with 2 relatively recent combat tours (Afghanistan and Iraq) I stand by the practice of informing the general populous before major offensives.
At first I didn't agree with it, but I've lived it and see the results of this multi-pronged strategy. It is very, very wise.
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I'm sure I don't understand it, but I will listen when someone that has been there speaks.
Thanks for your service, bro.
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