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Old 07-22-2008, 02:02 AM
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Re: Biblical Hair Study

If 1 Corinthians 11:6 was intended to mean "uncut hair for a covering" then 1 Corinthians 11:7 would mean that a man must shave his head lest he dishonor God. Or if you take the UPC traditional teaching of "cut = shaved" then a man could have a pony tail to his waist as long as it had been cut or trimmed at all.

The whole passage is obscure and to boast that any one interpretation is "God ordained" is hubris.

Numbers 5:18 commands the priest to "uncover the woman's head" when she offers a grain offering. Does this mean that the priest shaved the woman's head? No, the context clearly has a veil or head covering in mind - and not uncut hair.

1 Corinthians 11 is vague enough to allow several interpretations. To make such a passage a heaven or hell issue is to attempt to pull an Isaiah 14:13-14, IMHO.
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Old 07-22-2008, 02:08 AM
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Took it back, Jekyll? I was wondering why I couldn't quote that. That's okay. Neither you nor I have any idea what they "angels have to say" about this issue.
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Re: Biblical Hair Study

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(Jer 7:29) Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.

Why did the prophet tell Jerusalem to cut off her hair? Because she was a spiritual harlot and would not be faithful or obedient to her husband Jehovah. And just so that everyone that saw Jerusalem would know that she was a spiritual harlot the prophet told her to cut off her hair and cast it from thee. It is very possible that Paul had this scripture in mind when he wrote (I Co 11).


Here's the scripture....

(I Co 11:6) For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shornκείρω) but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn (keiro) or shaven, let her be covered.


***Enhanced Strong's Lexicon:
2751 κείρω [keiro /ki·ro/] v. A primary verb; GK 3025; Four occurrences; AV translates as “shear” three times, and “shearer” once. 1 to sheer: a sheep. 2 to get or let be shorn. 3 of shearing or cutting short the hair of the head.


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SHEAR, SHEARER, SHORN
keiro (κείρω, 2751) is used (a) of “shearing sheep,” Acts 8:32, “shearer,” lit., “the (one) shearing”: (b) in the middle voice, “to have one’s hair cut off, be shorn,” Acts 18:18; 1 Cor. 11:6


***DBL Greek:

3025 κείρω (keirō): vb.; ≡ Str 2751—LN 19.23 cut hair, shear (another), (Ac 8:32+); (dep.) to have one’s hair cut (Ac 18:18; 1Co 11:6(2×)+)


NASB Dictionaries
2751.***************κείρω keirō; a prim. vb.; to shear:— cut(1), hair cut off(2), shearer(1).

Thayer's Greek English Lexicon

keirw Acts 18:18; absolutely, of shearing or cutting short the hair of the head, 1 Corinthians 11:6 (cf. Winer’s Grammar, sec. 43, 1).*


Louw, & Nida

88.150 αἰσχρός, ά, όν: pertaining to behaving in a disgraceful or shameful manner—‘disgraceful, shameful.’ εἰ δὲ αἰσχρὸν γυναικὶ τὸ κείρασθαι ἢ ξυρᾶσθαι, κατακαλυπτέσθω ‘since it is shameful for a woman to shave or cut her hair, she should cover her head’ 1 Cor 11:6.


Dr. M.D. Treece of Lake Charles, LA. was a UPC pastor and a Greek scholar. He was in Dallas, TX. many years ago teaching on the hair issue. I happened to be in that service and I still have his original handout from his teaching that night. Here is (I Co 11:6) from that handout.

(I Co 11:6) For if a women (is) not covered, let her be sheared, (or cut) but if (it is) a disgrace for a women to be sheared or shaved, let her continue being covered.

He also said that the word “continue” in the Greek meant to continue to let the hair grow. He said that meant not to cut the hair.

We can add more later!

Why does it always seem to be a man that comes up with this kind of thing?
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Why does it always seem to be a man that comes up with this kind of thing?
lol. I know this though: This study does more to support the idea that Paul was talking about women cutting their hair short not simply just cutting
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Re: Biblical Hair Study

Time for a bump?
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