Noah and the Ark - Page 3

pelathais · #21 03-12-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan

I'll admit, I am a simpleton. I believe that a God who performs miracles can keep a wooden ship together.. and if He wanted the animals to hybernate, they would. etc. etc.

However we are not told that these two necessary divine "interventions" ever took place. You're just adding to the Word of God (Revelation 22:18).

Why not just accept the Bible for what it says - on its own terms?

berkeley · #22 03-12-2010, 08:46 PM

Protesting that this stuff didn't happen... taking away from the word of God??

berkeley · #23 03-12-2010, 08:47 PM

And by the way... we are discussing an account in Genesis. I didn't add anything to Revelation.

pelathais · #24 03-12-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan

Protesting that this stuff didn't happen... taking away from the word of God??

Did a man literally go down from Jerusalem to Jericho and fall among thieves? Was this same man's plight subsequently ignored by both a priest and then a Levite, each in turn? Was this same man then literally rescued by a "Good Samaritan?"

What was the Samaritan even doing on a road between two "clean" Jewish cities? The priests and Levites would take this route to deliberately avoid traveling through "unclean" Samaria, but why would a Samaritan avoid Samaria?

Do you even take this story literally? Why not? It doesn't really say that it's a "parable" anywhere.

Did "Lazarus" literally find himself within Abraham's literal bosom? The list goes on. Why not just accept the Bible on its own terms?

pelathais · #25 03-12-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan

And by the way... we are discussing an account in Genesis. I didn't add anything to Revelation.

You're degenerating too quickly.

Are you saying then that it's okay to "add" to the words of Genesis?

pelathais · #26 03-12-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

You're degenerating too quickly.

Are you saying then that it's okay to "add" to the words of Genesis?

Again, it really easy to prove me wrong... if I am wrong. But no one can do it.

Just draw up the plans or scantlings and submit them to either your local zoning office or to a qualified marine surveyor. Have we really gone 4,000 years without anyone ever trying to prove this thing to have literally occurred?

Just try and build the boat and fit 1050 elephants and the thousands of other creatures onto the thing. I'll even allow fiberglass mock ups of the dinosaurs - they're lighter and they don't eat, drink, pee or poo. But only the dinos. The rest have be real living creatures... AND ... they have to be alive at the end of your sea voyage. Use drugs, tranqs... anything you want - but they have to be kept alive!

Twisp · #27 03-12-2010, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Personally I think he just wanted to post a video of an elephant peeing...weirdo

Well, my interest in this thread just perked up. lol.

Arphaxad · #28 03-12-2010, 09:00 PM

Hey, why stop at Noah's ark? Jesus feeding 5000-impossible, surviving all night with lions-impossible, some scrawny kid killing a lion, and a bear-impossible, Jesus raising Lazarus after 4 days - impossible,etc,etc,etc, God becoming a man-prove it scientificaly,can't do it?, so it never happened.
Wow, let's pick and choose what we want to believe.

Me, I believe all things are possible with God.

berkeley · #29 03-12-2010, 09:02 PM

On it's own terms? Degenerating? I wasn't attempting to argue with you.

pelathais · #30 03-12-2010, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Arphaxad

Hey, why stop at Noah's ark? Jesus feeding 5000-impossible, surviving all night with lions-impossible, some scrawny kid killing a lion, and a bear-impossible, Jesus raising Lazarus after 4 days - impossible,etc,etc,etc, God becoming a man-prove it scientificaly,can't do it?, so it never happened.
Wow, let's pick and choose what we want to believe.

Me, I believe all things are possible with God.

I believe in miracles - however Genesis 6 - Genesis 9 doesn't indicate that anything other than naturalistic forces were at work. To mix this account with other accounts that clearly describe supernatural intervention fails the "rightly dividing" test.

Better to just believe the Bible for what it says. And, when it is clearly parabolic or metaphoric in nature, it's best to not try and force one's own private interpretation upon the text.

You, in fact, are demonstrating a method of "picking and choosing" here. You are also making a good argument for taking the Bible out of the public schools.