My New Lady Friend

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Naw, you're sounding like a PCI. I think you're a closeted PAJC.

Whoever the woman is that I marry will have been filled with the Holy Ghost before I marry her.

Our children will be taught to seek after the infilling of the Holy Ghost.

[berkeley]

Baptism is not a work

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Baptism is not a work

It is something that you do, so it is a work.

[Jermyn Davidson]

But it is commanded to be done.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

It is something that you do, so it is a work.

Stop hanging out with the Baptists. (they used to baptize)

Baptism is a work of God. Read Romans.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Stop hanging out with the Baptists. (they used to baptize)

Baptism is a work of God. Read Romans.

But the baptists are my friends and I sure do love listening to Paul Washer!!!


I am at work and I do not have my Bible with me.

Seriously, how can anyone make the argument that baptism is not a work?

If you have to do it in order for it to be done, then it is a work.



It's a clear, Biblical command-- but it is still something that you must do and this constitutes "work".

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

If you have to do it in order for it to be done, then it is a work

what the heck does that mean?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Berkley

what the heck does that mean?

The person has to be baptized.

The act itself is passive, but in order for the act to happen, there are things that a person has to do. This is thinking of baptisms as I have seen and known them.


So I am trying to think of a way in which a person can be Biblically baptized without physically doing anything to make or allow the baptism to happen.



Hmmm, still thinking.....



Regardless, I am Biblical in my assertion as James teaches that faith without works is dead.

The Bible also teaches that Abraham was declared righteous by his faith-- which was demonstrated when he did something.

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Sherri,

I hope you come back.

I hope I did not offend you.

LOL! No offense......I got sleepy and went to bed!

We teach everyone that they need to be baptized once they repent. "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved." Not that baptism saves you - but that if you truly get saved you will want to be baptized. Same way with receiving the Holy Ghost.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Goes to a non-denominational church.

I visited her church for their Sunday afternoon service.

I felt the presence of the Lord.

I worshipped the Lord.

I listened to the sermon.

I was prophesied on.

I enjoyed the service.



And I know why I am Apostolic.

As much as at times I feel that I am so at odds with how I hear certain Biblical concepts explained, I realize that God has made me to be an Apostolic.

I don't believe others are lost just because they're not Apostolic, but it has been awhile since I have felt so very sure of what I believe, what I will teach, and what I will preach.


*We are saved by grace through faith.

*Faith must be demonstrated in order for it to be faith.

*Biblically, we are commanded to demonstrate that faith through repentance and water baptism, in the Name of Jesus Christ.

*The gift of the Holy Ghost is God's Promise to all believers and should be pursued by all believers.





I plan to speak with the Pastor of my new lady friend's church, letting him know where I stand on these most important issues. I will then ask him if he thinks that it is proper for me to pursue a relationship with one of his sheep.

If he says yes, cool.
If he says no, cool.

Either way, I'll be alright.



Folks, visiting that church made me so glad to know that I am an Apostolic.

I may not like all the traditions, but I know what I believe, and I'm so glad.

I wouldn't approach him. It's not his business nor does he own her. It may be God's will that you be a light to her and if you bring him into the equation you will bring the possibilty of his interferrence. She could become very confused and have a crisis of faith if she sincerely loves you.