When Are We Forgiven?

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I don't believe you can be filled with the Holy Ghost unless you are a clean vessel - True repentance and baptism. I also do not believe you can make heaven without the Holy Ghost. (Romans 8:9)

The Bible says that you are saved by:

• believing on Jesus Christ - Acts 16:31
• calling on His name - Acts 2:21; Romans 10:13
• by His grace - Acts 15:11; Eph 2:5
• being justified by His blood - Romans 5:9
• reconciled by His death - Romans 5:9
• by hope - Romans 8:24
• that He was raised from the dead - Romans 10:9
• by faith - Eph 2:8
• by his mercy and by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost - Titus 3:5
• by baptism - Mark 16:16
  

And ultimately by the "love of truth" - II Thess 2:10 "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved."

We are saved by believing, obeying and having a love of truth. The Gospel message encompasses a whole package. I believe it is erroneous to focus on one element - forgiveness only - concerning the faith and truth of Jesus Christ.

I think we all understand that, but there is some point that you are forgiven.

You are tying being forgiven to be saved. So, are you inferring that you aren't forgiven until you are saved and fulfilled all three steps?