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Re: Anything More Important Than the HMH Debate?
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Actually CC1, A healthy skepticism of "charismatics" is one very good thing the UPC has given me. Just not on the basis of salvation. Aside from questioning whether Charismatics are "saved" I have many questions for what has defined the Charismatic movement.
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Hmm....lets see. Most of the big televangelist scandlals were actually by
AOG ministers (Jimmy Swagart & Jim Bakker) so the Charismatics escape that particular definement. Not to say they have not had their share though with the likes of Bishop Earl Paulk who not only was a womanizer but fathered a child by his brothers wife no less.
The Charismatics have also left themselves plenty of room for criticism in what defines them by the excesses of the so called "prosperity" preachers who turned the gospel into a get rich quick scheme and then the wacko's going around preaching about "holy laughter" and other such non biblical things.
Just like most things in life you have to wade through the chaff to find the gold. There are plenty of balanced charismatic churches who do present the gospel accurately and work to disciple people for Christ.
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Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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