Is God a person?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I asked you, how do you define person?

Other translations of hebrews 1:3 use the word "substance" or "nature". Better words than the kjv use of the word person.

When and were did you ask me? And why since I already did that in this thread?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

can you define person as understood by some trinitarians. Like I said before, most trinitarians believe they will see three bodies in heaven.

Already did that. And besides the fact that you will never be able to prove what most Trinitarians believe, angels have bodies of some sort...does not make them human

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

can you define person as understood by some trinitarians. Like I said before, most trinitarians believe they will see three bodies in heaven.

I don't think I have ever heard anyone say that and I have asked scores of Trinitarians who they expect to physically see/meet in heaven. All say Jesus Christ.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

When and were did you ask me? And why since I already did that in this thread?

I believe that quote was directed at Blume. But since we are on the topic why don't you define person as understood by trinitarians. I have read the whole thread and do not see your definition. Can you quote it.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Animal, mineral, vegetable or person? I choose person. God is a He, not an It. God is a who. God thinks. God rationalizes. God is self aware. Angels are too. I conclude God, angels and man, who are all spiritual beings, are persons. They can personally relate to others.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

noun1.a human being, whether man, woman, or child: The table seats four persons.
2.a human being as distinguished from an animal or a thing.
3.Sociology. an individual human being, esp. with reference to his or her social relationships and behavioral patterns as conditioned by the culture.
4.Philosophy. a self-conscious or rational being.
5.the actual self or individual personality of a human being: You ought not to generalize, but to consider the person you are dealing with.
6.the body of a living human being, sometimes including the clothes being worn: He had no money on his person.
7.the body in its external aspect: an attractive person to look at.
8.a character, part, or role, as in a play or story.
9.an individual of distinction or importance.
10.a person not entitled to social recognition or respect.
11.Law. a human being (natural person) or a group of human beings, a corporation, a partnership, an estate, or other legal entity (artificial person or juristic person) recognized by law as having rights and duties.
12.Grammar. a category found in many languages that is used to distinguish between the speaker of an utterance and those to or about whom he or she is speaking. In English there are three persons in the pronouns, the first represented by I and we, the second by you, and the third by he, she, it, and they. Most verbs have distinct third person singular forms in the present tense, as writes; the verb be has, in addition, a first person singular form am.
13.Theology. any of the three hypostases or modes of being in the Trinity, namely the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.

A Person as it is used theologically, refers to an actual identified individual that is self aware or rational. See #5 as well and apply that to God. Does God have a personality? Is God self aware? Is God rational? The word Hyostasis was used to identify these three individuals they believe in. Probably because the word represents the foundation, that which lies beneath, the substantive part of a being to which are attributed a set of certain attributes that identify what KIND of being one is.

Humans are persons who share a Human nature

God is a person with a Divine nature.

Trinity teaches God is 3 Persons who have the same , not the same kind, Divine nature.

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

I believe that quote was directed at Blume. But since we are on the topic why don't you define person as understood by trinitarians. I have read the whole thread and do not see your definition. Can you quote it.

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[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

I don't think I have ever heard anyone say that and I have asked scores of Trinitarians who they expect to physically see/meet in heaven. All say Jesus Christ.

Hoovie, I have spoken to trinitarians that believe Jesus will show them the Father on the throne and Jesus at His right hand. Have you read about the son of man and the ancient of days in the book of Daniel?

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

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ah yes, I remember that quote now, please forgive me. My question for you is:

Is God the father a complete person without christ?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Hoovie, I have spoken to trinitarians that believe Jesus will show them the Father on the throne and Jesus at His right hand. Have you read about the son of man and the ancient of days in the book of Daniel?

There is definitely some heavy symbolism going on there, and I am not sure we as Oneness understand how it will be any more than trinitarians. There may be some physical manifestation of God apart from Christ in heaven. Perhaps a cloud? smoke? I dunno. Perhaps it's all strictly metaphoric...

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

ah yes, I remember that quote now, please forgive me. My question for you is:

Is God the father a complete person without christ?

Im not sure I understand the question, but I guess my answer is yes. God is a PERSON with a Divine nature

[Praxeas]

BTW in the context of Daniel it is revealed that the term son of man refers to the church, not Jesus