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04-19-2010, 10:37 PM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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Originally Posted by Sam
Remember this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgByE0pX1M
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Whoa, this is much worse than the original video posted on this thread. It is outright mocking God. What a bunch of foolish garbage, I fear for these mens souls.
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04-19-2010, 10:41 PM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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Originally Posted by Sam
Remember this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgByE0pX1M
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this makes me never to want to even call myself "pentecostal" ever again, for fear of being confused with these lunatics. 
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
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04-19-2010, 10:47 PM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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this makes me never to want to even call myself "pentecostal" ever again, for fear of being confused with these lunatics. |
One of the reasons I love the word "Christian"!!!!!
Sadly when a lot of people hear "Pentecostal" or "Charismatic" they think of either snake handlers, prosperity preachers, or things like on this video.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-19-2010, 11:18 PM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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Originally Posted by Sam
Remember this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgByE0pX1M
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I made it to a minute and a half. I can't watch it. It hurts too much. Painful.
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04-19-2010, 11:36 PM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
6:14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was irded with a linen ephod. (6:14, 20-22)
"And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod."
6:16 And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart
6:20 Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!
6:21 And David said unto Michal, It was before the LORD, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the LORD, over Israel: therefore will I play before the LORD.
6:22 And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.
King James Bible
For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
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04-19-2010, 11:48 PM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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Originally Posted by Melody
6:14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was irded with a linen ephod. (6:14, 20-22)
"And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod."
6:16 And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart
6:20 Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!
6:21 And David said unto Michal, It was before the LORD, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the LORD, over Israel: therefore will I play before the LORD.
6:22 And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight:
and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.
King James Bible
For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
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If David, from the Old Testament no less, is the model for "shouting" then you should remove your clothes and dance naked.
I am trying my best to not get sucked into this disucssion because I don't want to do what Prax refers to which is to be mean or intolerant.
However this absolutely ZERO New Testament examples of "shouting" / "dancing". I appreciate the sentiment and desire of those who do it but I believe it is 100% Pentecostal tradition and there is no New Testament precedent for it.
It is funny that many who are embarressed and ashamed by the Kenneth Hagin video montage of him talking about how on the day of Pentecost people thought they were drunk and then he applies it to today and acts drunk & the audience acts drunk - When he is doing EXACTLY what you are doing in this post I have quoted. Extrapolating from scripture to justify some practice today. Seems to me there is just as much Bible for Kenneth Hagin and his audience to act drunk as there is for any other kind of shouting.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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04-20-2010, 01:06 AM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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This thread just goes to show that liberals can be a mean spirited, intolerant bunch as much as they claim cons are
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True dat..
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04-20-2010, 01:07 AM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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Now I have a question. I don't want this to be offensive or antagonistic. Just a question. How does God look at individuals that are in the "flesh" in their "worship?" Does He approve of it and does He smile on the actions of those individuals?
I have seen in my time, in the church, those persons who were in the flesh. How did I know? God does not tear down instruments, bust out sheetrock and otherwise run over people. He never causes someone to be injured worshipping Him! If God would answer this question, verbally, what would His answer to us be?
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And what does God think of folks who spend thier time ripping how folks worship???
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04-20-2010, 01:10 AM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
Some of you people literally make me sick...with your snarky comments and carnal spirits....another reason why so many have abandoned this forum....they have gotten tired of agnostics, apostates, and reprobates constantly tearing down Godly folks.
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04-20-2010, 03:13 AM
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Re: Can't say I miss this.....No disrespect intend
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Originally Posted by CC1
If David, from the Old Testament no less, is the model for "shouting" then you should remove your clothes and dance naked.
I am trying my best to not get sucked into this disucssion because I don't want to do what Prax refers to which is to be mean or intolerant.
However this absolutely ZERO New Testament examples of "shouting" / "dancing". I appreciate the sentiment and desire of those who do it but I believe it is 100% Pentecostal tradition and there is no New Testament precedent for it.
It is funny that many who are embarressed and ashamed by the Kenneth Hagin video montage of him talking about how on the day of Pentecost people thought they were drunk and then he applies it to today and acts drunk & the audience acts drunk - When he is doing EXACTLY what you are doing in this post I have quoted. Extrapolating from scripture to justify some practice today. Seems to me there is just as much Bible for Kenneth Hagin and his audience to act drunk as there is for any other kind of shouting.
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Thing is, there are many "actors" in worship but I have no doubt that there are the True Worshippers! 
God loves praise, another thing of which I have no doubt.....none. 
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