When Will the Third Temple Be Built

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Originally Posted by mfblume

My point was not to prove they are either future or not, but to show the basis people use to demand they're future is faulty. Since these details were taken at face value, and since such literal events never occurred, literalists have always used that as their basis to say Rev. is future. I just showed that is faulty reasoning. And this removes the grounds saying that these things did not yet occur. It makes us realize we have to look for some other proof they did not occur. And the fact is they could very well have been fulfilled when we realize we did not have to look for literal fulfillments. This brings on an entirely whole new approach to interpreting Revelation. I think my series of posts PROVED THAT.

Hardly anyone ever wants to do this, but the BEST way to discuss views on Revelation is to discuss the MANNER OF INTERPRETATION rather than the interpretations themselves.




No problem. But that was not my point in bringing up Zech 4. The point was WHY does Rev 11 point us to Zech 4?


I agree. Not my point, though.



I agree. However, since Rev 11 makes references to Joshua and Zerubbabel in Zech 4 and also Moses and Elijah in Exodus and Kings, we know it is error to pawn it off as easy as saying they have to be Moses and Elijah. So why would Moses, Elijah, Zerubbabel and Joshua be implied in this prophecy? These are the questions we must ask and use in determining their identities. I only ask you why you do not deal with those facts in your assessments. And if you can realize we have to deal with them, and that they somehow are showing us the truth of the prophecy's understanding, then you may also consider that your own viewpoint has been offbase.

I will say this. If you intend to try to learn what purpose Moses, Elijah, Zerubbabel and Joshua the high priest have in this prophecy, and seek to come up with an explanation, you will find people think you are off the wall, too, since they never stopped to consider such details. And without considering these details, you'll get the popular idea, since most people do not bother to deal with the entire prophecy.

My strongest point is all the AT HAND references in Revelation coupled with the overwhelming point that Rev 11 predicted the exact time it took Rome to besiege Jerusalem. We work from the easiest parts to understand and interpret the harder parts.

I know that the spirit and power of Elijah rested on John the Baptist. Could it be speaking of the spirit and power of Moses and Elijah resting on the church as a whole? What we see is the church militant in the two witnesses and the church's persecution and revival.

Thoughts?