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05-21-2010, 10:04 AM
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Re: What Is A "Charismatic?"
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Originally Posted by notofworks
Charismatic:
Todd Bentley
Toronto Blessing
Brownsville
Pulpits splitting
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I don't necessarily disagree. Just explain the things that turn you off or what about these examples above that make you "not a Charismatic."
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Well, let's see.....I don't kick people in the stomach like Todd Bentley, I don't bark like a dog and laugh like a hyena like the Toronto airport folks, I don't shake for 6 months straight and endless draw attention to myself rather than Christ like the folks in Brownsville, I don't claim my pulpit split in half like Tommy, I don't sell red healing hankies for $500, promise Beemers to every viewer and claim 400 billion souls like TBN, and I've never experienced holy laughter like the complete fraud Rodney Howard Brown.
How's that! 
I'm not totally sure what the absolute definition of a "Charismatic" is, but I know that when the word is spoken, it is associated with the list I just gave.
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05-21-2010, 11:51 AM
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Re: What Is A "Charismatic?"
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Well, let's see.....I don't kick people in the stomach like Todd Bentley, I don't bark like a dog and laugh like a hyena like the Toronto airport folks, I don't shake for 6 months straight and endless draw attention to myself rather than Christ like the folks in Brownsville, I don't claim my pulpit split in half like Tommy, I don't sell red healing hankies for $500, promise Beemers to every viewer and claim 400 billion souls like TBN, and I've never experienced holy laughter like the complete fraud Rodney Howard Brown.
How's that!
I'm not totally sure what the absolute definition of a "Charismatic" is, but I know that when the word is spoken, it is associated with the list I just gave. |
Good response. And I'm aware that all those things are going on and I want no part of them either. But, does anyone know of any "Charismatics" that don't fall into those categories? Are there "any" Charismatics that you would associate with and fellowship?
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05-21-2010, 12:01 PM
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Re: What Is A "Charismatic?"
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Charismatic - it's what we get called all the time by people in the organization that we left.
It's SO not who we are.  |
Saw some pictures on Facebook of folks doing worship service in your new church, pretty cool. Looked like you guys were having a good time 
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05-21-2010, 12:04 PM
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Re: What Is A "Charismatic?"
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Good response. And I'm aware that all those things are going on and I want no part of them either. But, does anyone know of any "Charismatics" that don't fall into those categories? Are there "any" Charismatics that you would associate with and fellowship?
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Its just a term, just like Pentecostal is a term. In fact AOG churches that I visit (which are the definition of Pentecostal for most of mainstream america) for the most part have little in common with UPCI churches in the way they do their approach to ministry, music styles, and attitude. And we are only separated from them by less than 80 years of history, we used to be the same.
The spectrum of spirit filled churches is as wide as the type of catholic churches from nation to nation and diocese to diocese.
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05-21-2010, 12:44 PM
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Re: What Is A "Charismatic?"
A form of godliness but denying the power therof.
Thats a good discrpition. Some have "tounge" classes to teach how to speak in tongues.
People like BennyHinn show what todays "charismatics" are.
Claim to be spirit filled, but have no power of God. Majority embrace trinity doctrine & baptism.
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05-21-2010, 12:45 PM
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Re: What Is A "Charismatic?"
I hear the word used for people who have left "the ark." And yes, it's been used to describe me (after I left said "ark") ... but it's not what I am.
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05-21-2010, 12:51 PM
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Re: What Is A "Charismatic?"
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A form of godliness but denying the power therof.
Thats a good discrpition. Some have "tounge" classes to teach how to speak in tongues.
People like BennyHinn show what todays "charismatics" are.
Claim to be spirit filled, but have no power of God. Majority embrace trinity doctrine & baptism.
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IT depends, its easy to take 1 bad example and tar thousands of churches.
When I was in Houston I sometimes went to the Lakewood service on Saturday evening just to catch a vision of how big a church can get and to raid their literature rack to get ideas on design and such for the church I was helping at.
They have a once a month class that teaches people how to receive the Holy Spirit (Ghost). I was planning on attending it, based on how it read in the brochure it discussed tongues being the initial sign, the difference between the initial utterance and its usage as a private prayer language vs. interpretation of tongues. It was a 90 minute class... based on the stylus of it.. it seemed pretty well rounded.
I don't see the difference between that and the later lessons of Search for Truth that discuss the exact same issues.
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05-21-2010, 12:55 PM
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Re: What Is A "Charismatic?"
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Originally Posted by UltraCon
A form of godliness but denying the power therof.
Thats a good discrpition. Some have "tounge" classes to teach how to speak in tongues.
People like BennyHinn show what todays "charismatics" are.
Claim to be spirit filled, but have no power of God. Majority embrace trinity doctrine & baptism.
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UltraCon do any of them speak in real, genuine Holy Ghost tongues? How do "YOU" know they "claim to be filled?" but have no power of God. SO ALL OF THE CHARISMATICS ARE JUST LIKE BENNY HINN? How do you know this?
Shouldn't this put you in an Ultra-judgmental class instead of UltraCon?
BeenThinkin
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