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Old 05-24-2010, 07:09 PM
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More Cry For More Government.... Obama says, "No!"

President Obama is NOT interested in taking over our country!



But my fellow REPUBLICANS are now trying to spin this as President Obama and the government are not doing enough!


Basically, the talk of less government is hogwash except when we want the government to step in.


From one extreme to another: Obama and the Federal Government want to usher America into Socialism; Obama and the Federal Government aren't doing enough to help.



Politics are proving to be a joke!!!
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Old 05-24-2010, 07:33 PM
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Re: More Cry For More Government.... Obama says, "

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President Obama is NOT interested in taking over our country!



But my fellow REPUBLICANS are now trying to spin this as President Obama and the government are not doing enough!


Basically, the talk of less government is hogwash except when we want the government to step in.


From one extreme to another: Obama and the Federal Government want to usher America into Socialism; Obama and the Federal Government aren't doing enough to help.



Politics are proving to be a joke!!!
Politics are a joke, and Politics is whats wrong with Washington. And if you think BO isn't a "politician", I dunno what to say.
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Old 05-24-2010, 09:42 PM
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Re: More Cry For More Government.... Obama says, "

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President Obama is NOT interested in taking over our country!



But my fellow REPUBLICANS are now trying to spin this as President Obama and the government are not doing enough!


Basically, the talk of less government is hogwash except when we want the government to step in.


From one extreme to another: Obama and the Federal Government want to usher America into Socialism; Obama and the Federal Government aren't doing enough to help.



Politics are proving to be a joke!!!
Obama is a politician.
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Old 05-24-2010, 10:26 PM
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Re: More Cry For More Government.... Obama says, "

Again today, people are crying out that our President is not doing enough to stop this huge oil spill.

What do they think he could do? or should do?
Why would he or the federal government have the equipment or expertise to stop that leak?
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Old 05-25-2010, 12:26 AM
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Again today, people are crying out that our President is not doing enough to stop this huge oil spill.

What do they think he could do? or should do?
Why would he or the federal government have the equipment or expertise to stop that leak?
You're right. If any one of us could wave a magic wand and fix the problem we would. Problems like this come up from time to time and it creates a real mess and people's lives are affected.

I don't know what kind of technical issues they're having but it doesn't seem like they've even been able to get their equipment in place to "shoot the golf balls and rubber tires" and the other moves that have been discussed.

One curious thing: Several local governments and other agencies have started to dredge up sand berms to protect their beaches and bayous from the oil spill. This is actually a great method of abatement - if your coast is right for it; but the EPA is now demanding that that no sand berms can be built without an environmental impact report being done for each locale.

What kind of bureaucratic nonsense is that? The "impact" of doing nothing leads to everything being covered with an oil slick. And yet, protecting the coast is a potentially "bad" thing?
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Old 05-25-2010, 08:35 AM
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Re: More Cry For More Government.... Obama says, "

JD - there's a HUGE, HUGE difference between BHO and the admin taking over corporations, banks and healthcare and them helping with a natural disaster.

I recall a certain recent President was raked over the coals for "his" and "his admins" response to a hurricane.

So why you so up in arms about this? Did you stick up for W during Katrina? Doubt it. I would bet the bank you were with a lot of others bashing W for the lack of adequate response.

One way the BHO admin can help is by allowing the states to do what they need to do ... QUICKLY ... without this red tape. They had to file with the EPA for permits to make sand dredges to keep the oil from the wetlands. Of course it's taking a while for it to go through all the stupid red tape. Meanwhile, the oil isn't waiting or standing still.

This thread is laughable. That you, JD, can't see the difference between the BHO admin taking over corps like GM, banks and an entire healthcare system - and the gov't simply assisting with a natural disaster ... simply unbelievable.
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Again today, people are crying out that our President is not doing enough to stop this huge oil spill.

What do they think he could do? or should do?
Why would he or the federal government have the equipment or expertise to stop that leak?
I asked this about Katrina when W was President and people just bashed him day in and out.

There are things the gov't can assist with, and the majority of that includes getting out of the way of the state and letting them do what they need to do to deal with it. Clear the red tape, open the doors, get them access needed.

Katrina of course was a different type of disaster that was complicated because of lives being in danger from flooding, etc. I was a critic of the administration - mostly because I couldn't understand why it took so long to get emergency supplies, like food, water and medical supplies, to the Superdome. I was furious when W told Brown, "doing a heckuva job, Brownie." But I didn't blame W, I blamed others - like Brown and FEMA who were clueless at what to do.

With regards to the oil spill, this admin can help by letting Louisiana do what it needs to do to stop the oil from spreading. Let them create sand islands to stop the flow. Let them create man-made reefs. Do something by stepping aside and letting the state do what it needs to do.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:03 AM
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I asked this about Katrina when W was President and people just bashed him day in and out.

There are things the gov't can assist with, and the majority of that includes getting out of the way of the state and letting them do what they need to do to deal with it. Clear the red tape, open the doors, get them access needed.

Katrina of course was a different type of disaster that was complicated because of lives being in danger from flooding, etc. I was a critic of the administration - mostly because I couldn't understand why it took so long to get emergency supplies, like food, water and medical supplies, to the Superdome. I was furious when W told Brown, "doing a heckuva job, Brownie." But I didn't blame W, I blamed others - like Brown and FEMA who were clueless at what to do.

With regards to the oil spill, this admin can help by letting Louisiana do what it needs to do to stop the oil from spreading. Let them create sand islands to stop the flow. Let them create man-made reefs. Do something by stepping aside and letting the state do what it needs to do.
Dubya could not do anything for a while because the Governor of the state refused his offer.

The U.S. govt. could allow the state to do the sand bar thing they are requesting. Will it work? Dunno, but at least it's doing something, not waiting weeks for "an environmental impact study" by Govt. Beauracracy.
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Re: More Cry For More Government.... Obama says, "

Well, can't say BHO is doing nothing ....

He's gonna try and raise the taxes on oil 3x the current amount.

Just wait 'til that hits the gas prices ... his approval is about to tank even more.

What a moron. He and those in Congress who are for this are completely stupid. They want to quadruple the tax on oil to "help pay for the cost of cleaning up the oil spill." I'm sorry, but what did I do to cause the oil spill? The only one who should be paying the costs is BP ... not the American taxpayers.

Do they not understand this simple, but incredible concept?!? The company that flaunted and bypassed safety, the one that caused the spill is the one who should PAY for the spill and damages done.

NOT THE TAXPAYERS. But this is the BHO way.
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[Ken] Salazar last week proposed eliminating the Minerals Management Service and replacing it with two bureaus and a revenue collection office. The name Minerals Management Service would no longer exist.
Great ... as if there wasn't enough beauracracy to begin with ... BHO admin's idea, "Let's eliminate one and create THREE!"

Uhm, Mr. President, wouldn't that cost more, add to an already out of control deficit and create more red tape during crisis like this?

Yes, yes it would.

But that's the BHO way! Tax and spend, baby! More beauracracy, more gov't control.

More, MORE, MORE!
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