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Old 05-25-2010, 03:45 AM
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Re: godhead (from you tube)

Unbelievable. Some of you folks do not believe in baptism in Jesus name nor the Oneness of God. Why are you even on this forum period?

As far as that particular video I havent had time to watch it. But when it comes to the SCRIPTURES if you study these two topics you will find both of these truths are well attested to.
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:44 AM
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Unbelievable. Some of you folks do not believe in baptism in Jesus name nor the Oneness of God. Why are you even on this forum period?
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Baptism in Jesus' name?
I think we all believe in that.
We all believe that Jesus authorized His disciples to baptize in Matthew 28:19 so when we baptize we do so by His delegated authority or "in His name." Some believe the way to baptize in His name/authority is to repeat the words that He spoke to those who would be doing the baptism in His name/authority. What words did He speak in Matthew 28:19? Some of us may just see this differently than others.

Oneness of God?
Yes, we believe in His oneness. We also believe in His threeness. We do not believe the Bible contradicts itself so we try to reconcile His threeness and His oneness and we come up with differing theories and explanations and arrive at different conclusions. Then we think we have to argue that our own personal understanding is the only right one.

I can't speak for the motives of everyone here but I think we all love the Lord and have a desire to serve Him. We just honestly do not see eye to eye on some of these issues from an intellectual standpoint.
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Old 05-25-2010, 04:58 PM
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Baptism in Jesus' name?
I think we all believe in that.
We all believe that Jesus authorized His disciples to baptize in Matthew 28:19 so when we baptize we do so by His delegated authority or "in His name." Some believe the way to baptize in His name/authority is to repeat the words that He spoke to those who would be doing the baptism in His name/authority. What words did He speak in Matthew 28:19? Some of us may just see this differently than others.

Oneness of God?
Yes, we believe in His oneness. We also believe in His threeness. We do not believe the Bible contradicts itself so we try to reconcile His threeness and His oneness and we come up with differing theories and explanations and arrive at different conclusions. Then we think we have to argue that our own personal understanding is the only right one.

I can't speak for the motives of everyone here but I think we all love the Lord and have a desire to serve Him. We just honestly do not see eye to eye on some of these issues from an intellectual standpoint.
I dont doubt that people love the Lord and dont understand his doctrine. Yet I dont think thats Gods fault. If one starts with the foundation that God is one and Jesus is God he will come to Oneness. There is truth in scripture thats meant to be believed.

I started a thread a while back Is the Light Going Out Of Oneness? I really think it is. Here is a so called Oneness forum where many people reject basic Oneness principles. I never thought I would see more Oneness turning to other faiths than vice versa.

When I first got the revelation it seemed many people were getting it. Most everyone I shared with accepted it. Even the first few years on the net it was that way. The last 5 or 6 years something has changed. Oneness people are now falling for Arianism and also Trinitarianism.

There is a real spirit of bitterness against Oneness doctrine from within its own ranks. Its so unreal.
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Old 05-25-2010, 05:19 PM
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Re: godhead (from you tube)

Bro. Michael the Disciple,
Scripture states that all that can be shaken will be shaken and that if possible even the very elect would fall away! Sad to say that is what is happening to many of those that once held this Oneness Doctrine so dear! They have been seduced of thier own desires to fall into the false teaching and heresy of trinitarinism, and other doctrines that would disminish the validity of the Mighty God in Christ!

I want to encourage to keep striving for the faith and constinuing stedfast in this wonderful truth! Like God told Elijah when he prayed about so many falling away and serving Baal- God said there was a remenant of 7000 that has not bowed their knee to Baal...

Likewise there is a remenant that will hold to this precious truth and will not bow thier knees to heretical lies of the enemy! I watch many young people fall away but they will not all fall from truth!

Im only 24 sir, but I can assure you that I am holding to this truth and will preach it till I die! I have bought this truth and have no desire to sell it!


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I dont doubt that people love the Lord and dont understand his doctrine. Yet I dont think thats Gods fault. If one starts with the foundation that God is one and Jesus is God he will come to Oneness. There is truth in scripture thats meant to be believed.

I started a thread a while back Is the Light Going Out Of Oneness? I really think it is. Here is a so called Oneness forum where many people reject basic Oneness principles. I never thought I would see more Oneness turning to other faiths than vice versa.

When I first got the revelation it seemed many people were getting it. Most everyone I shared with accepted it. Even the first few years on the net it was that way. The last 5 or 6 years something has changed. Oneness people are now falling for Arianism and also Trinitarianism.

There is a real spirit of bitterness against Oneness doctrine from within its own ranks. Its so unreal.
Actually all indications are, the so called Oneness here that are no longer Oneness are Unitarians. Is the "light" of Trinitarianism going out because many trinitarians convert to Oneness?

These people are not Oneness. They are Unitarian
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