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05-26-2010, 12:31 PM
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
My IQ is 50 so I'm very proud of what I've been able to accomplish.
(I really have no idea what my iq is and don't trust those online tests to be accurate... remember when Peggy Hill got into Mensa (or something like that).
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05-26-2010, 12:34 PM
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy
My IQ is 50 so I'm very proud of what I've been able to accomplish.
(I really have no idea what my iq is and don't trust those online tests to be accurate... remember when Peggy Hill got into Mensa (or something like that).
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I have no idea who Peggy Hill is.
But if BENNY Hill had gotten into Mensa, that would have been funny! He'd have been chasing all those girl-genius' around the conference tables!
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05-26-2010, 01:56 PM
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy
My IQ is 50 so I'm very proud of what I've been able to accomplish.
(I really have no idea what my iq is and don't trust those online tests to be accurate... remember when Peggy Hill got into Mensa (or something like that).
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Just the episode recently.
"It has confirmed what I already know!"
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05-26-2010, 04:15 PM
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
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Originally Posted by proudfather
I don't mind when a person disagrees with my position. That's okay. The problem starts when someone begins to insult my intelligence. That is not scriptural at all. And yes, I realize that he didn’t directly call me a fool, but that was the implication.
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My friend, you seem to be a devout person who believes what they believe sincerely, and I can respect that. In fact, I'm actually quite impressed with you. You have demonstrated a measure of courage by joining in the discussions posted on this forum. Cheers to you.
However, let me be very clear about something. I didn't call you, or anybody else a fool. In reading this thread, you may have inferred a personal attack on your intelligence, (and you'd be wrong btw) but it still doesn't equate to being labeled a fool. Foolishness denotes lack of wisdom, not intelligence. (I've been accused of lacking both  )
Now, what was the point of this thread anyway??
In some obscure, twisted way, I think the general message is actually a rather noble one. I'm simply challenging folks to think, independently! With a certain few, maybe that isn't a good thing, but it's generally a good rule of practice for the rest of us. Of course, the reality is, we all have our limitations (see original posts 1-2), and ultimately, our worth as an individual is not really contingent on whether we're a brainiac or not. If you feel differently, then I'm obliged to respectfully disagree.
If you hang around, I think you''ll develop an appreciation for a lot of the good folks that make AFF great. Don't know what you've been told, but there exists a great wealth of knowledge, wisdom and faith among its members (typing from the bottom of the totem pole here). I don't know of any formal rules, but I suspect that original, well thought out contributions are respected by everybody that reads here. I certainly welcome them. Most of us can sniff up posts that smell of organizational propaganda before you click on the submit button. Unscrupulous and dubious doctrines do not go unchallenged in this realm, (if we have time to log on of course).
Bottom line: We want you to win. Period.
Here's something to consider. Ask your pastor (assuming you have one) for a list of criteria which helps him to determine "outward holiness standards" in his congregation, (again, assuming he holds them). Before he goes off prooftexting a bunch of gobbly gook, stop him in his tracks and respectfully ask "Wasn't the earthly Jesus Christ our standard? If he insists on adding to the "inadequacy" of the proposal by undermining the work of the Spirit in our complex lives, it may be the impetus you need to write a book on, "Christian Standards That Eclipse Jesus Christ," which is no doubt destined to become a best seller. Just cut me a little of the top for the idea.
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05-26-2010, 06:42 PM
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
and yall wonder why all the conservative people leave....if you enjoy debate so much why not debate the thread instead of starting a mocking one?
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05-26-2010, 06:55 PM
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
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Originally Posted by noeticknight
My friend, you seem to be a devout person who believes what they believe sincerely, and I can respect that. In fact, I'm actually quite impressed with you. You have demonstrated a measure of courage by joining in the discussions posted on this forum. Cheers to you.
However, let me be very clear about something. I didn't call you, or anybody else a fool. In reading this thread, you may have inferred a personal attack on your intelligence, (and you'd be wrong btw) but it still doesn't equate to being labeled a fool. Foolishness denotes lack of wisdom, not intelligence. (I've been accused of lacking both  )
Now, what was the point of this thread anyway??
In some obscure, twisted way, I think the general message is actually a rather noble one. I'm simply challenging folks to think, independently! With a certain few, maybe that isn't a good thing, but it's generally a good rule of practice for the rest of us. Of course, the reality is, we all have our limitations (see original posts 1-2), and ultimately, our worth as an individual is not really contingent on whether we're a brainiac or not. If you feel differently, then I'm obliged to respectfully disagree.
If you hang around, I think you''ll develop an appreciation for a lot of the good folks that make AFF great. Don't know what you've been told, but there exists a great wealth of knowledge, wisdom and faith among its members (typing from the bottom of the totem pole here). I don't know of any formal rules, but I suspect that original, well thought out contributions are respected by everybody that reads here. I certainly welcome them. Most of us can sniff up posts that smell of organizational propaganda before you click on the submit button. Unscrupulous and dubious doctrines do not go unchallenged in this realm, (if we have time to log on of course).
Bottom line: We want you to win. Period.
Here's something to consider. Ask your pastor (assuming you have one) for a list of criteria which helps him to determine "outward holiness standards" in his congregation, (again, assuming he holds them). Before he goes off prooftexting a bunch of gobbly gook, stop him in his tracks and respectfully ask "Wasn't the earthly Jesus Christ our standard? If he insists on adding to the "inadequacy" of the proposal by undermining the work of the Spirit in our complex lives, it may be the impetus you need to write a book on, "Christian Standards That Eclipse Jesus Christ," which is no doubt destined to become a best seller. Just cut me a little of the top for the idea.
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I wish you'd post more. I like reading your writings.
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05-26-2010, 08:02 PM
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
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Originally Posted by Joey Boneski
and yall wonder why all the conservative people leave....if you enjoy debate so much why not debate the thread instead of starting a mocking one?
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"Conservative people?" I consider myself a robust conservative, and I'm still here. I have a hunch that many "conservative" people you're referring to never really left, but are lurking in the shadows. The staff here at AFF is simply irresistible!
At the moment, time constraints prevail with family, work, and grad school, but I'll be happy to engage more thoroughly when these college professors get done tweaking my cpu.
Last edited by noeticknight; 05-26-2010 at 08:24 PM.
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05-26-2010, 08:05 PM
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paladin for truth
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
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Originally Posted by notofworks
I wish you'd post more. I like reading your writings.
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Thanks! I like writing your readings!
Last edited by noeticknight; 05-26-2010 at 08:18 PM.
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05-26-2010, 08:28 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
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Originally Posted by proudfather
I understand the implications and I find them distasteful. BTW, I work a very complex job. If you're trying to make fun of my recent post, then have at it. People made fun of Noah too. Oh yes, and would you describe the following men as ignorant?
Tamalge French
Larry Booker
Wayne McClain
David Bernard
Paul Mooney
These men hold the same views that I do. I guess that makes them stupid and immoral men. God have mercy on you.
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Originally Posted by Joey Boneski
and yall wonder why all the conservative people leave....if you enjoy debate so much why not debate the thread instead of starting a mocking one?
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I have been gone for awhile but perhaps I really have missed more than I thought.
I read the initial posts and was very interested in what had been posted, then I saw the two posts quoted above and couldn't figure out if they had recently scored their age on an IQ test and were insulted by it or something else perhaps?. But then I thought, "no" because they would be too stupid to understand that they were being insulted. So I thought and thought and figured that it must be plain old narcissism that makes people think a post about IQ is all about them.
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05-26-2010, 09:18 PM
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Re: Intelligence Is Still Important
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
I have been gone for awhile but perhaps I really have missed more than I thought.
I read the initial posts and was very interested in what had been posted, then I saw the two posts quoted above and couldn't figure out if they had recently scored their age on an IQ test and were insulted by it or something else perhaps?. But then I thought, "no" because they would be too stupid to understand that they were being insulted. So I thought and thought and figured that it must be plain old narcissism that makes people think a post about IQ is all about them.
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This reminds me of a Toyota add which ran sometime during the middle of the 1990's in magazines and some newspapers. It just showed an open road with the caption "Unlike your last boyfriend, it will go to work every morning", or something to such effect. That was it! Nothing else!
The NAACP demanded an apology saying it was insulting to black people!
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