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05-29-2010, 09:01 PM
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
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Valid? It is a valid way to exercise.
Worship is not about any of those things.
Can you give me one NT example of worship that looks like this?
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What does NT praise look like?
What does NT worship look like?
What about the Quakers-- would you suggest their experiences were a sham too? (if that is what you are saying about demonstrative praise and worship that happens in many Apostolic churches)
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05-29-2010, 09:03 PM
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
Praise is an adoration, worship is a reverence...there is a difference.
Just my opinion, Praise is an outward expression that can not be internalized. Whether that expression comes from the mouth, dancing before the Lord or running the aisles is of no consequence to me as long as it is done sincerely.
Worship, on the other hand, can be something done in somberness, silent prayer, or some other form. Again my opinion, but I believe both are necessary. However, I have seen many use worship to say they are praising. Nope, not at all. Praise can't be bottled up.
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05-29-2010, 09:03 PM
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
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What does NT praise look like?
What does NT worship look like?
What about the Quakers-- would you suggest their experiences were a sham too? (if that is what you are saying about demonstrative praise and worship that happens in many Apostolic churches)
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Whatever it looked like, I am pretty sure it did not resemble a modern Pentecostal service.
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05-29-2010, 09:04 PM
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
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How many of these are anything more than what took place in their culture already?
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Well I don't know ANYTHING about the Jewish culture before God called them out as Jews.
Other than killing animals like Abraham did, I don't know what you could be getting at.
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05-29-2010, 09:05 PM
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
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Whatever it looked like, I am pretty sure it did not resemble a modern Pentecostal service.
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How can you be so sure?
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05-29-2010, 09:06 PM
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
When Peter spoke of the, "times of refreshing", could it mean he was talking about times when God would pour out His Spirit over and over, just like on Pentecost?
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05-29-2010, 09:07 PM
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
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Praise is an adoration, worship is a reverence...there is a difference.
Just my opinion, Praise is an outward expression that can not be internalized. Whether that expression comes from the mouth, dancing before the Lord or running the aisles is of no consequence to me as long as it is done sincerely.
Worship, on the other hand, can be something done in somberness, silent prayer, or some other form. Again my opinion, but I believe both are necessary. However, I have seen many use worship to say they are praising. Nope, not at all. Praise can't be bottled up.
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Can worship be demonstrative?
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05-29-2010, 09:11 PM
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
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Well I don't know ANYTHING about the Jewish culture before God called them out as Jews.
Other than killing animals like Abraham did, I don't know what you could be getting at.
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Their culture included singing and dancing, such as when the women came out and chanted, "Saul has slain his thousands..."
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
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How can you be so sure?
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They had church in homes, the didn't run aisles, or behave in such a way as to destroy the homes they were in, which is what would happen if they had a Pentecostal style worship service.
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05-29-2010, 09:14 PM
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Re: Change The Doctrine, Lose The Exuberance?
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Their culture included singing and dancing, such as when the women came out and chanted, "Saul has slain his thousands..."
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Ok let me ask you this. You and I have talked before. Don't you miss the praise and worship of Apostolic services?
If not, why not?
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