How many times did you ask God for the Holy Ghost? - Page 11

On The Wheel · #**101** 06-01-2010, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirth1981

Yes. It is heartbreaking.

Yes, it is. And not found in scripture.

Other than in Acts 2, the first infilling with tongues and the Samaritans, who apparently needed the keys Peter possessed, everyone who sought the spirit received it immediately.

Try as I might, I cannot find our altar services in scripture.

Mirth1981 · #**102** 06-01-2010, 02:03 AM

1 Kings 18:26-29

Taking the young bull that was turned over to them, they prepared it and called on Baal from morning to noon, saying, "Answer us, Baal!" But there was no sound, and no one answering. And they hopped around the altar they had prepared.

When it was noon, Elijah taunted them: "Call louder, for he is a god and may be meditating, or may have retired, or may be on a journey. Perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened."

They called out louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until blood gushed over them.

Noon passed and they remained in a prophetic state until the time for offering sacrifice. But there was not a sound; no one answered, and no one was listening.

Mirth1981 · #**103** 06-01-2010, 02:04 AM

1 Kings 18: 36-38

At the time for offering sacrifice, the prophet Elijah came forward and said, "LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, let it be known this day that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things by your command.

Answer me, LORD! Answer me, that this people may know that you, LORD, are God and that you have brought them back to their senses."

The LORD'S fire came down and consumed the holocaust, wood, stones, and dust, and it lapped up the water in the trench

Mirth1981 · #**104** 06-01-2010, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by On The Wheel

Yes, it is. And not found in scripture.

Other than in Acts 2, the first infilling with tongues and the Samaritans, who apparently needed the keys Peter possessed, everyone who sought the spirit received it immediately.

Try as I might, I cannot find our altar services in scripture.

I remember the first big Pentecostal crusade I ever went to. It was the first time I saw people falling on the floor and shaking and just an overall "frenzy" type of altar call. I was scared. I remember looking at the people's facial expressions and they looked almost like they were being tortured mentally. I wonder sometimes if we subconsciously feel like we have to put ourselves through this in some sort of penance to God...so that He will accept us. I think it creates an unhealthy view of God if that's the case.

On The Wheel · #**105** 06-01-2010, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirth1981

1 Kings 18:26-29

Taking the young bull that was turned over to them, they prepared it and called on Baal from morning to noon, saying, "Answer us, Baal!" But there was no sound, and no one answering. And they hopped around the altar they had prepared.

When it was noon, Elijah taunted them: "Call louder, for he is a god and may be meditating, or may have retired, or may be on a journey. Perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened."

They called out louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until blood gushed over them.

Noon passed and they remained in a prophetic state until the time for offering sacrifice. But there was not a sound; no one answered, and no one was listening.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirth1981

1 Kings 18: 36-38

At the time for offering sacrifice, the prophet Elijah came forward and said, "LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, let it be known this day that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things by your command.

Answer me, LORD! Answer me, that this people may know that you, LORD, are God and that you have brought them back to their senses."

The LORD'S fire came down and consumed the holocaust, wood, stones, and dust, and it lapped up the water in the trench

It looks as if you found an example. Good for you!

Mirth1981 · #**106** 06-01-2010, 02:20 AM

My older brother took a long time to get the Holy Ghost. He was one of those people that would "tarry" at the altar long after everyone else had left. He was 14 or so around that time. He was SO HUNGRY.

There would always be a group of people gathered around him...you know the way it goes: one person shouting in his ear, another rubbing his back, yet another shouting in the other ear, others just standing close by watching and praying loudly, and just all fired up. He told me about the worst of these experiences...it was at a district youth camp. The above described melee was taking place, and an unnamed preacher parted the crowd in front of him and laid his hand on his head and PUSHED DOWN (like he was trying to cause him to be "slain in the spirit") My brother said he had to bend his knees and forcefully brace himself to keep from being knocked over...but eventually just had to give in and be pushed down on the floor.

He didn't get the Holy Ghost that night either.

pelathais · #**107** 06-01-2010, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirth1981

My older brother took a long time to get the Holy Ghost. He was one of those people that would "tarry" at the altar long after everyone else had left. He was 14 or so around that time. He was SO HUNGRY.

There would always be a group of people gathered around him...you know the way it goes: one person shouting in his ear, another rubbing his back, yet another shouting in the other ear, others just standing close by watching and praying loudly, and just all fired up. He told me about the worst of these experiences...it was at a district youth camp. The above described melee was taking place, and an unnamed preacher parted the crowd in front of him and laid his hand on his head and PUSHED DOWN (like he was trying to cause him to be "slain in the spirit") My brother said he had to bend his knees and forcefully brace himself to keep from being knocked over...but eventually just had to give in and be pushed down on the floor.

He didn't get the Holy Ghost that night either.

What goes through people's minds when they do that? "I'm gonna push that young man straight down to the floor!!! Yup!! ... There! See? He put up a fight but I got him down! Yup!"

mizpeh · #**108** 06-01-2010, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by On The Wheel

Yes, it is. And not found in scripture.

Other than in Acts 2, the first infilling with tongues and the Samaritans, who apparently needed the keys Peter possessed, everyone who sought the spirit received it immediately.

Try as I might, I cannot find our altar services in scripture.

You're right. We aren't like the early church when it comes to folks getting the Spirit without a struggle. What do you suppose is the difference? And how can we be more apostolic in this regard?

*AQuietPlace* · #**109** 06-01-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

You're right. We aren't like the early church when it comes to folks getting the Spirit without a struggle. What do you suppose is the difference? And how can we be more apostolic in this regard?

Part of it, I think, is that people have begun to expect that you have to 'seek' for a while before you'll get it. So a lot of it is in the expectation.

Other than that, I don't know.

iceniez · #**110** 06-01-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

I didn't expect any zeroes.

I would have put a zero also , did not ask and recieved the Holy Ghost while praying at home . I did not know what it was or what happened . I was speaking in tounges. He lead me to the truth though.