A special "HMH" Conference series

pelathais · #1 06-01-2010, 04:01 PM

UPC churches in Missouri, Texas and Rhode Island have announced "HMH Conferences" beginning this fall.

"HMH???" I guess DAII's crusade has taken root so deeply that even the mothership now advertises these things as "HMH Conferences."

http://tiny.cc/iqi2z

pelathais · #2 06-01-2010, 04:06 PM

On a sadder and much more serious, troubling note: The web poll there asks what types of issues the attendees would like to see discussed - so far, the overwhelming majority have selected "Childhood Sexual Abuse."

Maybe it's time to stop casting stones at the Catholic Church on this one and past time that we started to deal with this issue ourselves.

pelathais · #3 06-01-2010, 04:46 PM

"If you plan on hosting a HMH Conference through your church, please let us know the pressing needs in your area."

Justin · #4 06-01-2010, 05:30 PM

... misleading, Pel!

And your point about the abuse is saddening.

TrmptPraise · #5 06-01-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

On a sadder and much more serious, troubling note: The web poll there asks what types of issues the attendees would like to see discussed - so far, the overwhelming majority have selected "Childhood Sexual Abuse."

Maybe it's time to stop casting stones at the Catholic Church on this one and past time that we started to deal with this issue ourselves.

Yeah with 61 total votes and no inkling of why the responder chose that answer...yeah let's make that conclusion...

Oh and "Family and Parenting" is a mere 6 votes behind...whom are we ever going to blame for that.

Pragmatist · #6 06-01-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TrmptPraise

Yeah with 61 total votes and no inkling of why the responder chose that answer...yeah let's make that conclusion...

Oh and "Family and Parenting" is a mere 6 votes behind...whom are we ever going to blame for that.

Well, I've no idea the extent of the problem, but you're burying your head in the sand if you don't think it's an issue.

MissBrattified · #7 06-01-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

On a sadder and much more serious, troubling note: The web poll there asks what types of issues the attendees would like to see discussed - so far, the overwhelming majority have selected "Childhood Sexual Abuse."

Maybe it's time to stop casting stones at the Catholic Church on this one and past time that we started to deal with this issue ourselves.

I agree that we need to deal with these issues and not sweep things under the rug! However, publicly exposing molestation and abuse in a flamboyant way isn't always in the best interest of the victim, either. Witch-hunts tend to end up with innocent people being burned at the stake.

I've heard about this conference, and I've only heard good things so far. I was also told that a couple of the classes had very few attendees, because of the sensitive subject matter. Regardless, I hope they persist because we have hurting people in our churches, and most people are unprepared to deal with their pain.

I wouldn't agree with any implication that we have an epidemic of child molesters in positions of leadership in the Apostolic church, on a scale similar to the CC. There are isolated cases, unfortunately, in every denomination.

TrmptPraise · #8 06-01-2010, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pragmatist

Well, I've no idea the extent of the problem, but you're burying your head in the sand if you don't think it's an issue.

So...let me make sure I understand this correctly...childhood sexual abuse is now the going thing in the UPC ranks, or by insinuation, what has been going on and far outranks and other spiritual or natural matter based on a website poll? Awesome.

Pragmatist · #9 06-01-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TrmptPraise

So...let me make sure I understand this correctly...childhood sexual abuse is now the going thing in the UPC ranks, or by insinuation, what has been going on and far outranks and other spiritual or natural matter based on a website poll? Awesome.

It is a big issue in society, and as such also runs over into the church. Do a poll and ask how many women were molested as children. Ask how many were molested by someone who was "saved". I bet the results would surprise you.

mizpeh · #10 06-01-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TrmptPraise

So...let me make sure I understand this correctly...childhood sexual abuse is now the going thing in the UPC ranks, or by insinuation, what has been going on and far outranks and other spiritual or natural matter based on a website poll? Awesome.

Many folks who become followers of Christ as adults were abused and molested as children by family and so called friends not necessarily by church folk. The poll doesn't say that child abuse is a direct result of UPC ministers.