Perkins vs Burt on Music and Worship

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Actually I have COX cables premium service here in Mesa, AZ which gives me 20 megs down and 5 up. (So in effect I am MUCH cooler then those using AT&T's service.)

Ya.. but I am paying WAY more than you... wait...

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Apocrypha

Ya.. but I am paying WAY more than you... wait...

We have at&T, too... When we lived in town, we had cable, and it was way better than dsl. Out in the country, we have no choice. It's dsl or dial-up, and that's a no-brainer.

[JN Anderson]

thanks randywayne. I'll remember that when I upload my next .mp3.

Yeah, it was quite a debate.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Speaking to the content of the debate, I am having a hard time believing that one of the debate positions is that musical instruments are not authorized by scripture.

And yes, the holder of that position (Perkins?) is putting nearly all of his eggs in the basket of silence, meaning that since the scripture doesn't tell you to use instruments in worship, then they must be forbidden. Similar to the example given of someone accused of murder saying that he can present at least 50 witnesses who did NOT see him murder that woman.

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

And yes, the holder of that position (Perkins?) is putting nearly all of his eggs in the basket of silence, meaning that since the scripture doesn't tell you to use instruments in worship, then they must be forbidden. Similar to the example given of someone accused of murder saying that he can present at least 50 witnesses who did NOT see him murder that woman.

Did he miss the OT references to the Levite musicians who played at the tabernacle/temple? David, the psalms and the other contributers to that... don't see where he gets much traction from that position.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

And yes, the holder of that position (Perkins?) is putting nearly all of his eggs in the basket of silence, meaning that since the scripture doesn't tell you to use instruments in worship, then they must be forbidden. Similar to the example given of someone accused of murder saying that he can present at least 50 witnesses who did NOT see him murder that woman.

That's a common CoC position on music. Most will use a tuning fork to get the congregation on key. I asked a CoC friend about that and why they thought a tuning fork was allowable when the Bible doesn't call for one.

He said that the difference was that a tuning fork was an "aid" and "not an instrument."

I always wanted to see somebody turned loose with a set of tuning forks.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by pelathais

That's a common CoC position on music. Most will use a tuning fork to get the congregation on key. I asked a CoC friend about that and why they thought a tuning fork was allowable when the Bible doesn't call for one.

He said that the difference was that a tuning fork was an "aid" and "not an instrument."

I always wanted to see somebody turned loose with a set of tuning forks.

The "aid not a tool/instrument/decoration" argument seems to be used quite often. Usually used when asking why a "no jewelry" minister is wearing a watch or a "no doctors allowed" individual is wearing eye glasses.