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Old 07-07-2010, 02:21 PM
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Re: Did Paul take scripture out of context?

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The "problem" is only a problem for those who demand that Scripture be read through fundamentalist spectacles. Have you considered Matthew 2:15, along with this?

I'm not trying to change the subject - but this is key to understanding the way the apostles read their Scriptures. In Matthew 2:15, Matthew appears to be claiming that Jesus, Mary and Joseph all fulfilled a "prophecy" from the OT.

This OT "prophecy" is found in Hosea 11:1. But when we read Hosea, we find that the prophet isn't prophesying here, he's telling history! He tells us that God has ALREADY "called His son out of Egypt." This is history and not a prophecy at all. Was Matthew so grossly illiterate that he could not understand that?

No. He understood it well. He just understood it differently than our modern fundamentalists. And more importantly, what God was doing at that moment could not be understood by a fundamentalist reading of the Bible either. To understand what God was doing in the lives of Jesus, Mary and Joseph we have to drop our fundamentalism and adopt an apostolic understanding of Scripture.

One way this might apply to the passages that your Bible is opened to right now is to see that God always "speaks in other tongues" to those who are not following him. The Assyrians were an immediate fulfillment in Isaiah's day. The apostles on the Day of Pentecost were simply another example. Matthew 13:10-17, might be given as another example.
Good answer. Now my question is, why must we examine scripture differently than the Apostles examined the Old Testament? I know the answer, I just want to get your perspective.
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