UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit! - Page 18

Baron1710 · #**171** 07-13-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

If you had the facts wrong and later publicly apologized when you realized that, could you still be sued for slander?

Under the commonlaw the answer is no.

Retraction - unless made immediately after publication so as to negate the defamatory effect of a statement, retraction does not undo the wrong. But it may be considered by the court to show lack of actual malice in mitigation of damage. (Barbri on Torts)

pelathais · #**172** 07-13-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Baron if the Pastor simply just said to the congregation that she was with another man wearing a bikini, alone and that according to how the church defines fornication, there was just cause for a divorce and for him to remarry, would she still have a case against him?

To come right out and say that the man she was "with" was wearing a bikini opens a whole 'nother can of worms and a mental picture that I am very uncomfortable with.

Praxeas · #**173** 07-13-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

To come right out and say that the man she was "with" was wearing a bikini opens a whole 'nother can of worms and a mental picture that I am very uncomfortable with.

rofl

allstate1 · #**174** 07-13-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Possibly. I find it strange that no one mentions the cause for their divorce.

Or who filed!!

Baron1710 · #**175** 07-13-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Baron if the Pastor simply just said to the congregation that she was with another man wearing a bikini, alone and that according to how the church defines fornication, there was just cause for a divorce and for him to remarry, would she still have a case against him?

If those facts were true, I don't think they would be able to go forward with their complaint.

Praxeas · #**176** 07-13-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

If those facts were true, I don't think they would be able to go forward with their complaint.

That's what I thought.

drummerboy_dave · #**177** 07-13-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Baron if the Pastor simply just said to the congregation that she was with another man wearing a bikini, alone and that according to how the church defines fornication, there was just cause for a divorce and for him to remarry, would she still have a case against him?

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

If those facts were true, I don't think they would be able to go forward with their complaint.

Simple is better, isn't it?

James Griffin · #**178** 07-13-2010, 01:26 PM

My friend Baron must learn the sacred words:

"It depends"

There certain circumstances and even jurisdictions where you can be successfully sued and not really having told a lie, example - the false light doctrine.

Which is a quasi-defamation tort action.

Cindy · #**179** 07-13-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrsMcD

I can not imagine my father feeling the need to do the same. In fact, I know he wouldn't because we know the pastor involved very well and we discussed this situation a few days ago. The pastor had no reason to be discussing this girl period. She wasn't his saint. The girl's pastor (which I know very well) stood behind her.

I think it would have been better for everyone if he had told HIS daughter, pick another guy. To avoid ANY impropriety.

jfrog · #**180** 07-13-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by drummerboy_dave

see #106... seems I am slow to respond, you've already discussed it.

BTW frog, would you mind discussing the thought of post #26 and #32. You can PM to me if you want.

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Originally Posted by jfrog

With an impending divorce... Sometime long before April the guy gave up hope of being with his wife at the time. Once that is done then emotional connections can begin to be established with other people. I would bet that such a thing happened in this situation. In other words he probably began to date or at least be very friendly/flirty with the pastors daughter before the divorce was finalized. I don't see that as wrong.

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Wow, frog. Maybe I'm just an idealist, but marriage is supposed to be for ever. I can't imagine how people find this acceptable.

I assumed that they had began the divorce process long before any of the incidents cited. I assumed that neither party legally divorced the other for adultery. There was (probably) at least 6 months to 1 year from the start of their divorce process to the finish because of state laws.

I'm an idealist too. Marriage should last forever. But the fact is that this marriage was 6 months to a year from being over once the divorce process started. So once the man realized it was really over, once that knowledge became real to him, I would expect him to act more or less as a single man. Given the lengthy process it takes to have a divorce finalized I believe he realized his marriage was over and started to act more or less as a single man before his divorce was finalized. It was in this time period that I believe him and the pastors daughter began to grow close.

I find nothing wrong with him acting single since he was soon to have an ex-wife instead of a wife.