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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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She knew it was not condoned and would not be accepted by the church. She either didn't care what the church thought or did it in spite of the church. I imagine she also knew her husband wouldn't be happy with her decision. Her wearing a bikini has much more to do with sticking it to the church and expressing her new found freedom. Bikini's are something that American women wear to the pool. There is nothing sexual about that.
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I'm not 100% sure that WAS, in fact, her intent. However, the possibility exists.
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I have serious doubts that the woman was alone with the man at the pool. If she had been, she would have been accused of much worse than simply wearing a bikini.
If they had been alone, that would have been considered a "date", and then she really would have been accused of an affair! The fact that she was only accused of exhibitionism leads me to believe that she simply wore a bikini with another man present.
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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She knew it was not condoned and would not be accepted by the church. She either didn't care what the church thought or did it in spite of the church. I imagine she also knew her husband wouldn't be happy with her decision. Her wearing a bikini has much more to do with sticking it to the church and expressing her new found freedom. Bikini's are something that American women wear to the pool. There is nothing sexual about that.
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It's possible that she had "backslid".
And they may have been separated at the time, who knows.
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07-13-2010, 03:34 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I guess so.
If your wife slept with 490 guys a day would you stay married to her?
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07-13-2010, 03:35 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I'm not 100% sure that WAS, in fact, her intent. However, the possibility exists.
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So what else could her intent have been?
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I guess so.
If your wife slept with 490 guys a day would you stay married to her?
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Shannon Tweed proved it is possible.
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07-13-2010, 03:36 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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We don't even know if it happened. Period.
Or if the other guys' wife was there in the pool ...
All this goes back to slamming the victim ...
Same stuff is heard about the girl who is raped "had it coming to her" because she had on a short skirt ...
Or the pedophile priests that are protected by their good ol' boys network saying why are we "talking about this, it needs to be taken care of in house"
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Typical "holiness" it is all the woman's fault. If she hadn't been dressed that way I wouldn't have been lusting.
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I guess so.
If your wife slept with 490 guys a day would you stay married to her?
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Sitting next to a pool in a bikini is one thing; sleeping with a man who isn't your husband is quite another.
This woman wasn't accused of adultery--not even by the pastor or her husband. The best they could do was "exhibitionism" falling under the clause of fornication, which while I agree could be a point of contention between a man and his wife, is NOT cause for divorce.
It's most definitely not grounds for remarriage according to my conservative upbringing. It appears that Pastor Fogarty tried to justify his daughter's remarriage on the grounds of fornication, but calling this fornication is quite a stretch.
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07-13-2010, 03:38 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I guess so.
If your wife slept with 490 guys a day would you stay married to her?
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YES!! If she admitted it and ask for forgiveness and wanted help in finding a cure for her nymphomania!! If it was a lifestyle she wanted then no.
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
It's not all the woman's fault, and Elder Fogarty appears to have erred.
However, the bikini-clad pool issue is really revealing.
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