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07-31-2010, 09:49 AM
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Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Here Dr. Sabin responds to arguments made on the John Ankerberg Show with Nathaniel Urshan as well as Walter Martin and Calvin Beisener. His reply was recorded live in 1986 at a Oneness symposium. Here you see Sabin expose the weakness of the Trinity when Calvin Beisner and Walter Martin both reject the eternal regeneration of the second person of the Trinity. Sabin makes the point that Beisner contradicts prior written material on that subject (God in Three Persons) He also notes that Martin, Beisner and Ankerberg were give the majority of the time to speak as well.
These are some good thoughts that can help balance our perspective of this debate.
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07-31-2010, 10:11 AM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by JN Anderson
Click here for mp3/audio
Here Dr. Sabin responds to arguments made on the John Ankerberg Show with Nathaniel Urshan as well as Walter Martin and Calvin Beisener. His reply was recorded live in 1986 at a Oneness symposium. Here you see Sabin expose the weakness of the Trinity when Calvin Beisner and Walter Martin both reject the eternal regeneration of the second person of the Trinity. Sabin makes the point that Beisner contradicts prior written material on that subject (God in Three Persons) He also notes that Martin, Beisner and Ankerberg were give the majority of the time to speak as well.
These are some good thoughts that can help balance our perspective of this debate.
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Do you have anything fresh, like, anything recorded in the last 95 years?
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07-31-2010, 10:38 AM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
Do you have anything fresh, like, anything recorded in the last 95 years?
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Mr. Smith,
You may not be interested in this because you may not be knowledgeable
of this debate, but there are Apostolic Pentecostals that may be.
After all, this is supposed to be an Apostolic forum.
I have a feeling that you know more, or have known more about Pentecostals
than you would care to admit. What IS your background! What are you trying
to justify!
No, I am not in any way suggesting that you leave. Just sayin....
Falla39
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07-31-2010, 12:40 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
Do you have anything fresh, like, anything recorded in the last 95 years?
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I think that is a valid point does Sabin still hold the same views as he did 25 years ago?
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07-31-2010, 12:43 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by Falla39
Mr. Smith,
You may not be interested in this because you may not be knowledgeable
of this debate, but there are Apostolic Pentecostals that may be.
After all, this is supposed to be an Apostolic forum.
I have a feeling that you know more, or have known more about Pentecostals
than you would care to admit. What IS your background! What are you trying
to justify!
No, I am not in any way suggesting that you leave. Just sayin....
Falla39
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Of course I'm familiar with it. I watched it when I was in college and that was a LOOOOOONG time ago!  I watched it when watching things was prohibited! 
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07-31-2010, 12:57 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
I think that is a valid point does Sabin still hold the same views as he did 25 years ago?
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From what I understand, no.
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07-31-2010, 01:15 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
From what I understand, no.
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Agreed...I met him once, and I don't think he does.
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07-31-2010, 01:27 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by Barb
Agreed...I met him once, and I don't think he does.
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Which was sorta my point when I told Anderson to present us something from the current century. I'm wondering if he's trying to throw a few "Trader" daggers at Sabin. Then again, maybe I've been watching too much TV.
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07-31-2010, 02:51 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
Robt. Sabin is a good friend and was one of my mentors. He is just as oneness now as he ever was. However, he is NOT a 3 stepper like when he was at ABI. 
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07-31-2010, 02:57 PM
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Re: Robert Sabin Responds to the Ankerberg Debate
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
Robt. Sabin is a good friend and was one of my mentors. He is just as oneness now as he ever was. However, he is NOT a 3 stepper like when he was at ABI. |
Mow I am glad you posted this. It was my inclination as well, but I don't claim to know him very well.
There we go folks. Sounds like the arguments Sabin made then concerning Trinitarian/Oneness perspectives are still valid and "fresh". 
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