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Old 05-01-2007, 03:18 PM
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God portrayed His love by allowing His enemies (humanity) to enter into a covenant relationship with Him wherein they cease to be His enemies (keeping in mind that it is their sin, their rebellion against God that makes them His enemies). God portrayed His love by sending His only begotten Son to bear the punishment for our sins so that we could enter into that covenant relationship with Him.

You assume that humans have free will and that is why you are having such a problem with this. The human will is not free, it is enslaved to sin along with the rest of the human's being (and, consequently, humans left to themselves will always choose sin and choose against God). Further, the human will is not free because it does not have the right to choose against God.
CHAN, you are not addressing the issue at hand....

God DID give humanity the free will.... the tree in the garden to choose right from wrong... you are looking at this from a point of view that makes no sense.

I am saying right and wrong is subjective, not to the individual but to the view of God, so in all tenses there in fact is no free will... BUT God gave man the opportunity to choose him or not... that way he would feel real love... the angels could not do this because it was there nature.... this is why we can worship and angels can only praise....

Yet I ask once again (echo... echo) if there is a punishment for not choosing God, then is it truly a choice?
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