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[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

It is a question to the American church ... us included my brother?

Why??

The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. So the answer is NO, Calvary of and by itself would not be enough.

The bible speaks of a trumpet making an uncertain sound. This question in and of itself causes red flags to fly high as far as to whether the person asking the question really knows the basic doctrine of the gospel message.

[Felicity]

Red flags also fly high when you say a person will spend eternity in hell because they haven't spoken in tongues.

[Whole Hearted]

any one who hasn't spoken in tongues doesn't have the Holy Ghost and are lost. Anyone without the Spirit are none of His.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Red flags also fly high when you say a person will spend eternity in hell because they haven't spoken in tongues.

Only to those that do not believe it.

But the point is, if someone is stating that Calvary alone is sufficient (just assuming this was the direction of the question), then they are denying part of the gospel itself, and totally doing away with the burial and resurrection as being important for our salvation.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

The Church of Champions is mentioned in the quote--



Is there a mix of quotes from two different sites strung together?

No, those were in fact from Shane Wests website. He calls is new church Church of Champions

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by CC1

They really need to think some of these church names through or am I the only one who always thinks of the sloagan "Breakfast of Champions!" when I hear that church name? LOL!!!

Of course as a motorcycle enthusiast I am more inclined to like "Triumph Church" although I am a Honda owner.

click this link and enjoy your breakfast
http://www.shanewest.com/

Originally Posted by CC1

There is a place between the "evil UPC" method you describe and just reciting the sinner prayer!

Some call that place false doctrine!

JK JK

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by philjones

Some call that place false doctrine!

JK JK

lol

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

The dog, huh?

Nice.

It was only a reference point and not all intended to imply that Daniel was a dog.

[SDG]

Bow wow???