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Old 08-18-2010, 09:58 AM
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Re: Was Dr Laura Schlessinger treated fairly?

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lol, that would be interesting.

Probably won't happen though. Redneck does not have the same horrible connotation as the word in question.
Why not?

When spoken in a derogatory fashion it is meant in just a hateful manner as any other derogatory word including the one in question.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:12 AM
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Re: Was Dr Laura Schlessinger treated fairly?

Not sure how fair it is, but it's how things go. If I said something like that at a work-sponsored event, I'd probably be let go too. She's employed like you and I in that way.

Wish her luck on her internet broadcasting, which it looks like what she's getting into.

I don't see eye-to-eye with DL on all things, but I enjoy her insights on making marriages work. Her child rearing is another story... and though there's a place for her "whip in shape, figure out their problem in 5 second" approach, sometimes it's over-the-top and falls short... but makes for great radio and she gets to make her point
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:13 AM
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Why not?

When spoken in a derogatory fashion it is meant in just a hateful manner as any other derogatory word including the one in question.
Doesn't have near the emotional power as the historic N-word.

Any word can be spoken with the same hatred, but like it or not, that word carries with it a century of not just hateful attitudes, but incredibly tragic events.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:15 AM
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Doesn't have near the emotional power as the historic N-word.

Any word can be spoken with the same hatred, but like it or not, that word carries with it a century of not just hateful attitudes, but incredibly tragic events.
Well I don't get the inconsistency.

If hate speech is wrong then hate speech is wrong and should be dealt with across the board.

Of course I am not one that believes that controlling speech... even hate speech... is in keeping with freedom of speech.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:26 AM
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Why not?

When spoken in a derogatory fashion it is meant in just a hateful manner as any other derogatory word including the one in question.
lol, the very fact that you will type out "redneck" but not the word in question leads me to believe that you know why one is more acceptable than the other.

If you really thought both words were just as bad, then you wouldn't have typed redneck, but would have censored it like the other word.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:41 AM
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lol, the very fact that you will type out "redneck" but not the word in question leads me to believe that you know why one is more acceptable than the other.

If you really thought both words were just as bad, then you wouldn't have typed redneck, but would have censored it like the other word.
I used a quote from the post I was replying to.

And... any failure to spell out one word over another wouldn't have to do with my own inconsistencies but those of others.

As Laura found out... there is no context in which you can type or say certain words that won't bring the thought police out of the woodwork to ensure an end is brought to you and your ability to speak freely.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:46 AM
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I used a quote from the post I was replying to.

And... any failure to spell out one word over another wouldn't have to do with my own inconsistencies but those of others.

As Laura found out... there is no context in which you can type or say certain words that won't bring the thought police out of the woodwork to ensure an end is brought to you and your ability to speak freely.
Still holds true. You spelled out redneck, even though you deem it as derogatory and hateful as the other word. If they are the same, go ahead and use them both in a post. lol, don't worry, I'll wait.
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:55 AM
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Still holds true. You spelled out redneck, even though you deem it as derogatory and hateful as the other word. If they are the same, go ahead and use them both in a post. lol, don't worry, I'll wait.
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Old 08-18-2010, 11:00 AM
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I'm not an idiot but I live my life and form my actions in full recognition that others are.
So you think both words are the same, but you won't spell one out, whereas you have no issue saying "redneck".

Yeah, that was a pretty lame argument to bring up if you were't going to follow it through to its logical conclusion. Either you believe something or you don't.

Don't just bring something up to try and help an argument if you don't believe in it.
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Motel 6 and Government Motors are the sponsors who have "pulled support".
GM's largest single shareholder is the United States government. So, wouldn't this be a case of Dr. Schlessinger's First Amendment rights being impuned by the Federal Government?

I can't speak to the comments for which she has apologized, but the multi-racial character of the caller's family resonates with my own experiences. My own father is perhaps the most "racist" person that I am related to - and his "problem" stems from the fact that he was never "white enough." He married about the "whitest" person he could find (my mother) and as a result I was harassed as kid for being "too white." Thanks dad... I think?

Color is nonsense. I've been trying to find reason and meaning in this discussion for my whole life and all I've ever come up with is nonsense.

I am constantly reminded of that Star Trek episode where the two half white and half black men were hatefully fighting each other. The characters were "disgusted" by the appearance of each other. The crew of the Enterprise, however, could not see any difference between the two men. Then, finally, one guy points out that the other fellow is "black on the wrong side and white on the wrong side." Only then does the crew (and the viewer) notice the "difference."

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