Was every Jew responsible for the crucifixion?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Act 2:23 KJV Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Act 2:36 KJV Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Mat 27:25 KJV Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.


Mat 23:31-37 KJV Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. (32) Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. (33) Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? (34) Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: (35) That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. (36) Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. (37) O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!


Act 2:40 KJV And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

Come on blume you should delete this so you don't corrupt the poll voters minds before they vote.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by ILG

Still, no, I think it's crazy to think all Jews of that day were responsible. Jesus' disciples were Jews.

I thought the same thing but apparently there's one among us who think all the Jew's of Christs day somehow are directly responsible.

[mfblume]

Pel agrees. We can let him remark, though, of course.

Originally Posted by Pelathais

He then went on to advise them that the Messiah had come and gone and that this nation (Israel) has crucified the One that God had made "both Lord and Christ."

It was at that point that the question came up, "What must we do?"

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To insert the word "saved" later does harm to Peter's who point about the nation of Israel and the corporate "guilt" concerning the death of this innocent man (Jesus).

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[jfrog]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Pel agrees. We can let him remark, though, of course.

I bet you that he does not

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by jfrog

I bet you that he does not

Does not agree? Or does not remark?

If you think he does not agree, then what did he mean in the quotes I made from him?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by jfrog

I thought the same thing but apparently there's one among us who think all the Jew's of Christs day somehow are directly responsible.

Indeed there is.

Even the dispensationalists amongst us agree that God worked with Israel as a corporate body. They claim that idea to such an extent that they think all of Israel must be saved in one day in our future, since God simply works corporately with them. They even feel jews OF TODAY are the ones who are noted in Rev1:7 when it says those who pierced Him shall see Him, as though this is yet future:

Rev 1:7 KJV Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

I feel Jews of today and ever since the generation of the cross are not responsible. Just those of that generation at that day.

[Socialite]

Is all mankind responsible for the resurrection?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Is all mankind responsible for the resurrection?

Indirectly, yes.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Indirectly, yes.

I meant Crucifixion. I guess, only God is responsible for the Resurrection

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Socialite

I meant Crucifixion.

Indirectly, yes.

I guess, only God is responsible for the Resurrection

Right.