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08-23-2010, 03:23 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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I think we can get to far out however winning souls should be our main focus...so in preparing for services we must examine who we are really reaching out to...years ago going into little catholic villages I new a couple little catholic songs that talked only about Jesus sometimes I would sing them...seemed to help me reach new people...
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The main focus is to use wisdom, which you have expressed rather wisely. (as you always do)
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08-23-2010, 03:25 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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The Holy Ghost is an outdated tactic.
The Holy Ghost still draws people to repentence.
I have seen a lot of tactics. Mormons claim millions of baptisms.
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Thanks for your deeply thoughtful and revelatory insights. Yawn.
No one said the Holy Spirit doesn't draw anymore, Toadie. In America, 17% regularly attend church services. You think something just might be wrong about sticking with 1950's strategies?
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08-23-2010, 03:26 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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That tactic was in the bible. Lot of sowing but some on rocky soil, and most never took root.
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Jason, this is when you seriously need to do a gut-check. When Coadie joins your team and agrees with you, surely you can recognize that you're in serious trouble.
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08-23-2010, 03:30 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
One of the most disgusting, sexually suggestive songs I've ever heard in church was a "Worship Chorus".
The lyrics:
Into your chamber, Sweet Holy Spirit
Speak to me gently as I close the door
Heavenly lover let thy Spirit hover
Shakinah unending is all I long for.
I think I'd rather go with "Let It Be" or "Rise Above This" or "Come Alive" by Foo Fighters.
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08-23-2010, 04:43 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
I have not had a chance to read this thread yet but thought I would list some of the songs I am suggesting to my pastor as "ice breakers" to open service;
1. Brick House - The Commodores
2. Your Lovin (Never Gonna Get It) - En Vogue
3. Come Together -The Beatles
4. Musktrat Love - Captain & Tennile
5. Cover of the Rolling Stone - Dr. Hook & The Medicene Show
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08-23-2010, 05:28 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have not had a chance to read this thread yet but thought I would list some of the songs I am suggesting to my pastor as "ice breakers" to open service;
1. Brick House - The Commodores
2. Your Lovin (Never Gonna Get It) - En Vogue
3. Come Together -The Beatles
4. Musktrat Love - Captain & Tennile
5. Cover of the Rolling Stone - Dr. Hook & The Medicene Show
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I would love to use, "Come Together" but I have no idea what the lyrics mean! 
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08-23-2010, 05:32 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by CC1
I have not had a chance to read this thread yet but thought I would list some of the songs I am suggesting to my pastor as "ice breakers" to open service;
1. Brick House - The Commodores
2. Your Lovin (Never Gonna Get It) - En Vogue
3. Come Together -The Beatles
4. Musktrat Love - Captain & Tennile
5. Cover of the Rolling Stone - Dr. Hook & The Medicene Show
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Good suggestions
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08-23-2010, 05:41 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Thanks for your deeply thoughtful and revelatory insights. Yawn.
No one said the Holy Spirit doesn't draw anymore, Toadie. In America, 17% regularly attend church services. You think something just might be wrong about sticking with 1950's strategies?
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Name calling? toadie?
Please describe 1950's strategies. Which did you use back then?
I don't suspect 17% figure you quote means any more than they attend or claim to. Are they soul winners?
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08-23-2010, 07:05 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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Originally Posted by Mr. Smith
One of the most disgusting, sexually suggestive songs I've ever heard in church was a "Worship Chorus".
The lyrics:
Into your chamber, Sweet Holy Spirit
Speak to me gently as I close the door
Heavenly lover let thy Spirit hover
Shakinah unending is all I long for.
I think I'd rather go with "Let It Be" or "Rise Above This" or "Come Alive" by Foo Fighters.
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ouch.
I'm definetely uncomfortable with that. Doesn't mean we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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08-23-2010, 07:35 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre
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ouch.
I'm definetely uncomfortable with that. Doesn't mean we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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...and the same goes for secular music. Just because some of it is bad doesn't mean that a lot of it can't be used for GREAT benefit in the church!!!
Mmmmm......so it's NOT just secular music that's the problem. See there? There are problematic Christian songs and problematic secular songs. It's our job, as people who are empowered by the Holy Spirit, to wisely select what we're going to do in our church gatherings.
You need to listen to some Coldplay and then explain to me how in the world their music could be damaging to the cause of Christ.
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