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09-13-2010, 08:43 PM
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
I remember years ago when my father-in-law drove a Sunday School bus for a UPC Church. One woman he picked up was wearing a man's shirt and her children all needed clothes also. He asked some of the men in the men's Sunday School Class (men 35 and up) if they could take up some money to help the family. He was told, "We're not the Salvation Army" and no no help with finances or clothing or food was given.
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09-13-2010, 08:46 PM
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
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So, you didn't answer the question: does this family attend YOUR church?  |
Yo no hablo ingles.
Perdone!
Lo siento eso no importa. Por que?
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09-13-2010, 08:48 PM
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
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I remember years ago when my father-in-law drove a Sunday School bus for a UPC Church. One woman he picked up was wearing a man's shirt and her children all needed clothes also. He asked some of the men in the men's Sunday School Class (men 35 and up) if they could take up some money to help the family. He was told, "We're not the Salvation Army" and no no help with finances or clothing or food was given.
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Are you sure this didn't just happen the other day? LOL
Unfortunately, it seems that our, the oneness church, focus is so much centered on those outside the doors that the ones inside are rotting away. I am not saying this about my church inparticular just in general.
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09-13-2010, 08:57 PM
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
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Yo no hablo ingles, pardon.
Lo siento eso no importa. Por que?
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me no speak espanol. (is that what it is?) 
I guess my only point would be: What did YOU do to help ? Does your church have a food pantry available? A lot of churches do now. Maybe whoever offered to sit down and work out a budget knows more about the "real" situation than your friend is relaying. ???
Been involved in church ministry like this for many years and when the pastor over the finances is told of a situation, financial counseling is always required for help. (Unless, of course, it is a real emergency such as a death or unexpected serious illness.)
It is the responsibility of the church to help, but at some point we must help people learn good stewardship and not just look for help every time they get in a financial bind. Maybe you haven't been given the full story ??
Nevertheless, I do applaud the LDS for helping this family, but make no mistake, at some point there will probably be some pressure put on your friend.
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09-13-2010, 08:58 PM
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
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Are you sure this didn't just happen the other day? LOL
Unfortunately, it seems that our, the oneness church, focus is so much centered on those outside the doors that the ones inside are rotting away. I am not saying this about my church inparticular just in general.
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This happened about 40 years ago.
Some time later my father-in-law was laid off from his truck driving job with the Teamsters Union. He felt like one of the things he had to cut back was on gas to drive to church. A couple of the men from the church visited him to see why he hadn't been to church and one of them offered to loan him his gas credit card.
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09-13-2010, 09:26 PM
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
Pea, he already said that he couldn't help.
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09-13-2010, 09:33 PM
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
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Pea, he already said that he couldn't help.
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There are lots of ways to "help" without giving money.
I'm not bashing JT, please don't misunderstand me.
I just feel it a shame that something couldn't be done for this family without them getting help from another organization. And, I'm wondering, if the pastor wanted to help them with budget, I'm willing to bet that there is more to the story than JT got.
JMHO.
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09-13-2010, 09:34 PM
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
Glad your friends found some help. However we should not confuse this kindness with spiritual truth. Just as I am sure there are many benevolent Muslims it does not make their religion truth and these kind Mormons are in the same boat.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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09-13-2010, 09:38 PM
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
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...I am sure there are many benevolent Muslims
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With the closing out of Ramadan, Muslims are supposed to do good deeds.
BHO joined some others on 9/11/10 by painting at a school.
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09-13-2010, 10:25 PM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: Thank God for the LDS Church....
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
There are lots of ways to "help" without giving money.
I'm not bashing JT, please don't misunderstand me.
I just feel it a shame that something couldn't be done for this family without them getting help from another organization. And, I'm wondering, if the pastor wanted to help them with budget, I'm willing to bet that there is more to the story than JT got.
JMHO.
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I guarentee you are wrong here, but no biggie. My family is strapped enough. We are on one income, partially disabled wife, etc. But I think that it awesome how the LDS church is helping out when they really have nothing to gain.
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