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Old 09-15-2010, 03:43 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem

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What is a law without any consequences?

Which law don't you see as legitimate? Taxation in general?
Looks like in the name of Social Justice, the DOJ tells us that certain voting laws won't be enforced.

Mon Sep 13, 7:32 pm ET
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WASHINGTON – The Justice Department's inspector general is responding to concerns of two Republican congressmen by opening a review of the department's enforcement of voting rights laws.

Inspector General Glenn Fine says he will examine whether the voting section has enforced laws in a non-discriminatory manner and whether voting section employees have been harassed for investigating or prosecuting particular matters.

Fine disclosed his plans in a letter Monday to Lamar Smith of Texas, who is the House Judiciary Committee's ranking Republican, and Rep. Frank Wolf of Virginia.

The concerns of the two congressmen stem from the department's dismissal of a lawsuit against two members of the New Black Panther Party
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DOJ carried away with social justice inniatives.
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:52 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem

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Looks like in the name of Social Justice, the DOJ tells us that certain voting laws won't be enforced.

Mon Sep 13, 7:32 pm ET
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DOJ carried away with social justice inniatives.
How is that being carried away? And why is every issue a "social justice" issue in your mind?

"Rush slammed by dems for being on pain killers" = Example of Social Justice

If I recommended some good reading on a theology behind social justice, would you read it? It may help you fully understand what "social justice" is, why it's important for the church to be involved with and of course, help you distinguish what it isn't.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:01 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem

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What is a law without any consequences?

Which law don't you see as legitimate? Taxation in general?
I didn't say that law would be without consequence...

The only law I abide by is this: Do what you please with the only stipulation that you don't diminish the life and property of others.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:11 PM
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I didn't say that law would be without consequence...

The only law I abide by is this: Do what you please with the only stipulation that you don't diminish the life and property of others.
The marxist socialist agenda says if someone as decided by society needs something you have more than you do, you lose.
Marximilian is on the kick that capitalism is bad.

The liberal agenda is moral relativism. If the state can justify a move, then your freedom gets restricted.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:22 PM
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I didn't say that law would be without consequence...

The only law I abide by is this: Do what you please with the only stipulation that you don't diminish the life and property of others.
aka You're an anarchist.
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:16 PM
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Let's see that meet the Romans 13 criteria though.
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And that's a whole 'nother debate.
Or is it?

BTW, what's your solution?
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Old 09-15-2010, 02:43 PM
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Or is it?

BTW, what's your solution?
It is...

I'm still working on that... I have an idea I'm pursuing at this point but, in the end, true liberty and freedom won't be seen in my lifetime... perhaps not even my kids lifetime... but I have began teaching my kids that it can be found and to be patient.

And, for the record, I do not believe in violence as a solution for anything. Before people start lumping me into the wacko box...
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:38 PM
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It is...

I'm still working on that... I have an idea I'm pursuing at this point but, in the end, true liberty and freedom won't be seen in my lifetime... perhaps not even my kids lifetime... but I have began teaching my kids that it can be found and to be patient.

And, for the record, I do not believe in violence as a solution for anything. Before people start lumping me into the wacko box...
Do you think perspective counts for anything? Can you think of a more free nation in the known world?

Doesn't freedom come with it a degree of surrender to maintain freedom? Are you an anarchist?
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:10 PM
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Do you think perspective counts for anything? Can you think of a more free nation in the known world?

Doesn't freedom come with it a degree of surrender to maintain freedom? Are you an anarchist?
No. Perspective will change depending upon environment, upbringing, and life experiences. This does not make it real or true except for a single person. There is reality and then there is perspective.

No. But that doesn't mean that we are truly free. Think of every tax, every license, every tidbit of legislation -- we are not free. We are given the perception of freedom while actually being bound.

No. That's like evil goodness or stupid intelligence. Freedom is freedom. If there is any degree of surrender it is my choice to do so.

Maybe -- it makes a lot of sense. Especially the intellectual stance of it - opposed to the chaotic, teen-age angst version that everyone seems to embrace.
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Old 09-15-2010, 06:23 PM
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No. Perspective will change depending upon environment, upbringing, and life experiences. This does not make it real or true except for a single person. There is reality and then there is perspective.

No. But that doesn't mean that we are truly free. Think of every tax, every license, every tidbit of legislation -- we are not free. We are given the perception of freedom while actually being bound.

No. That's like evil goodness or stupid intelligence. Freedom is freedom. If there is any degree of surrender it is my choice to do so.

Maybe -- it makes a lot of sense. Especially the intellectual stance of it - opposed to the chaotic, teen-age angst version that everyone seems to embrace.
What is "true freedom?"
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