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Old 09-15-2010, 03:41 PM
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Re: Reaching tentacles of the Social Justice movem

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This tells me you need to read the law.

Of the thousands of proposals that have been made to amend the Constitution, only 33 obtained the necessary two-thirds vote in Congress. Of those 33, only 27 amendments (including ...

The ammendments limit the government. That is how we protect the people from the government that is going socialist on us.
The amendments, in some cases, broaden Federal powers. You are using a very broad brush in talking about 27 amendments.

McCarthy, come back to us.
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:43 PM
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What is a law without any consequences?

Which law don't you see as legitimate? Taxation in general?
Looks like in the name of Social Justice, the DOJ tells us that certain voting laws won't be enforced.

Mon Sep 13, 7:32 pm ET
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WASHINGTON – The Justice Department's inspector general is responding to concerns of two Republican congressmen by opening a review of the department's enforcement of voting rights laws.

Inspector General Glenn Fine says he will examine whether the voting section has enforced laws in a non-discriminatory manner and whether voting section employees have been harassed for investigating or prosecuting particular matters.

Fine disclosed his plans in a letter Monday to Lamar Smith of Texas, who is the House Judiciary Committee's ranking Republican, and Rep. Frank Wolf of Virginia.

The concerns of the two congressmen stem from the department's dismissal of a lawsuit against two members of the New Black Panther Party
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DOJ carried away with social justice inniatives.
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:46 PM
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The amendments, in some cases, broaden Federal powers. You are using a very broad brush in talking about 27 amendments.

McCarthy, come back to us.
You don't get the point. Are you slow?

What does mCarthy have to do with the issue of social justice?
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Old 09-15-2010, 03:49 PM
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[QUOTE=vrblackwell;963400]You have no idea who I am or what I know. My wife an I volunteer monthly at Convoy of Hope as well a soup kitchens. I give money monthly to organizations that feed and cloth the homeless. Most of them are there because of poor choices they have made in life. I have tried to help some get jobs and come out of those situations and they all make excuses and refuse the help.

Your words deny you. Anyone who has worked with the poor up close would not just call them lazy people who make poor choices. A child who grows up in a poverty-stricken neighbor, an environment where education is not emphasized, a fatherless home and lies be being peddled to them before they are of age to even discern a lie from truth, are not just "poor people who make bad choices." That's a heartless thing to judge. Your words betray your resume, my friend. 100% of the people I know that work regularly with poverty in their cities... not ONE of the people say the things you do.

If it's true you GIVE to charity, that's different from being CHARITABLE and SHOWING Charity. Don't be discouraged because people don't take your advice. You can't undo a mentality, an addiction, a wounded life in a 30-second Dr. Laura-ish sound byte. Don't think you can either. We aren't called to success, we are called to love. We aren't called to make people do what we tell them, we are called to compassion. Our motives prevent us from really applying sincere love (Romans 12) to the wounds of those around us.


IF you will notice in my post I said we should help the elderly, handicapped and THOSE WHO ARE DOWN ON THERE LUCK AND GOING THROUGH HARD TIMES. However, we should not be supporting people on a continual basis who sit in there home provided by the government, watching cable tv.

I agree But nor do I think that number is very representative. Nor will it affect compassion and charity. Someone will always have an excuse.

"I urge. I plead with you. Take a social science class on it. I really think you'll at least reconsider your perspectives."

As far as the above, no thank you. I don't need some bleeding heart liberal at a college lecturing me on the homeless. As I mentioned above I've been on the front lines enough to know what goes on.

Your choice to remain ignorant. Liberal or Conversative, Poverty studies would be helpful to your understanding of the problem, and hopefully heal your compassion. How you choose to resolve the issue could be partisan, but as a believer, justice and charity are non-partisan issues.

I understand there are people who really do need help and we should give them that help.[/QUOTE]

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Old 09-15-2010, 03:50 PM
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You don't get the point. Are you slow?

What does mCarthy have to do with the issue of social justice?
What does social justice have to do with 99% of the ........ you've brought up? You guessed it...


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Old 09-15-2010, 03:52 PM
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Looks like in the name of Social Justice, the DOJ tells us that certain voting laws won't be enforced.

Mon Sep 13, 7:32 pm ET
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DOJ carried away with social justice inniatives.
How is that being carried away? And why is every issue a "social justice" issue in your mind?

"Rush slammed by dems for being on pain killers" = Example of Social Justice

If I recommended some good reading on a theology behind social justice, would you read it? It may help you fully understand what "social justice" is, why it's important for the church to be involved with and of course, help you distinguish what it isn't.
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:00 PM
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Your choice to remain ignorant. Liberal or Conversative, Poverty studies would be helpful to your understanding of the problem, and hopefully heal your compassion. How you choose to resolve the issue could be partisan, but as a believer, justice and charity are non-partisan issues.

I understand there are people who really do need help and we should give them that help.[/QUOTE]

Typical claim of enlightenment by the push for a social justice agenda.

Do you know why you are unable and unwilling to furnish a "poverty study"?

If you have to ask what stealing means, then you may NOT under the concept of property ownership.

It is covered in the audit and law section of a CPA exam. If you can take and pass those, then the ethics exam.

With an epidemic of tax cheats and financial fraud, a logical conclusion is that the Socialists are slipping in the moral issues.
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:07 PM
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How is that being carried away? And why is every issue a "social justice" issue in your mind?

"Rush slammed by dems for being on pain killers" = Example of Social Justice

If I recommended some good reading on a theology behind social justice, would you read it? It may help you fully understand what "social justice" is, why it's important for the church to be involved with and of course, help you distinguish what it isn't.
The use of the word "Every" is an example of lying by reason of exageration.

There really isn't much theology behind social justice. It is better expressed as trying to hook onto the bible to pretend validity.

Looks like you fall for what ever is popular in the culture

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CFC in the News - 2008 philadelphia daily news Abortion: It's an issue of social justice
If something is wrong, tie it to the church and label it social justice and you are in fine shape.
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:08 PM
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Typical claim of enlightenment by the push for a social justice agenda.

Do you know why you are unable and unwilling to furnish a "poverty study"?

If you have to ask what stealing means, then you may NOT under the concept of property ownership.

It is covered in the audit and law section of a CPA exam. If you can take and pass those, then the ethics exam.

With an epidemic of tax cheats and financial fraud, a logical conclusion is that the Socialists are slipping in the moral issues.
It wasn't really a jab. You rejected the idea of learning, educating yourself on the issue... thus, you are choosing to remain ignorant/unlearned on the subject.

Regarding everything else you said here... yup, ignorant was the right word. Sorry, coadie. Seriously though, I have no idea what you're saying.
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Old 09-15-2010, 04:10 PM
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The use of the word "Every" is an example of lying by reason of exageration.

There really isn't much theology behind social justice. It is better expressed as trying to hook onto the bible to pretend validity.

Looks like you fall for what ever is popular in the culture



If something is wrong, tie it to the church and label it social justice and you are in fine shape.
Huh? No theology behind it? Again, would you be interested in learning? How about scriptures? Would you just be blown away to know what the OT says about carrying for the disenfranchised, poor, widows, orphans? Mt 25?

No, you are making the mistake of assuming, just because it is in a political trend, that's it's wrong, because of the anti-culture idea. What is true is that social justice in secular circles is nothing more than self-righteousness. But that doesn't change the fact that "social justice" is a Jesus thing.
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