UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges - Page 4

ILG · #31 09-22-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

That statement is insane!

I knew about sex in elementary school.

I knew that I shouldn't do it then unless I was married then too.

At 16, she knew that she was having sex with a grown man, a married man, her Pastor at that.

satan will probably have a field day with her conscience for years over this-- only because she knew that this was the wrong thing to do.

To think a 16 year old capably seduced her pastor is what is insane. Let's not blame the victim here. The pastor took advantage of a vulnerable girl. Don't get me wrong. She may have stripped in front of him for all I care. He is guilty. When I say she is innocent, I mean it on the grounds that we are not talking about a 16 year old girl seducing a 16 year old boy. This is a way different subject. I don't care what she did. Shame on him.

ILG · #32 09-22-2010, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

That statement is insane!

I knew about sex in elementary school.

I knew that I shouldn't do it then unless I was married then too.

At 16, she knew that she was having sex with a grown man, a married man, her Pastor at that.

satan will probably have a field day with her conscience for years over this-- only because she knew that this was the wrong thing to do.

Satan will have a field day because she will believe she is guilty for being molested.

rgcraig · #33 09-22-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Barb

You are perfectly correct about many young ladies looking for 'love' in all the wrong places, but I do agree with Dan on this one...

The adult is always, always the one in control of the situation.

Of course - - I don't think scotty and I know I'm not saying she was in control. He took advantage of her looking for love in all the wrong places.

All she is guilty of is responding to this perv because she thinks he cares for her.

Jermyn Davidson · #34 09-22-2010, 08:06 AM

I am not calling for stoning or anything like that.

Even still, any attempt to absolve this 16 year old of guilt here is not realistic.

We try 16 year olds as adults in many crimes in America.

The wisdom of the Ohio law that kept the initial charges at sexual battery is displayed. A 16 year old is hardly a "child." Doesn't mean she is completely aware of ALL of the consequences of her actions, but at 16, she is aware enough to know that this was wrong.

Are there any articles that point to her mental handicaps that would contribute to her inability to realize that it is wrong to have sex if you're not married?

Or maybe she has already been sexually abused and she is in a place now where she is wrestling with stuff from an age in her life where her innocence was stolen.

Outside of these two scenarios, it is hard to make the case that she is innocent.

ILG · #35 09-22-2010, 08:08 AM

What is weird is how so far, there are people saying the pastor is innocent until proven guilty (even though the article says he admitted guilt) and the girl is being given down the road. The balance is way off here.

Jermyn Davidson · #36 09-22-2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

Satan will have a field day because she will believe she is guilty for being molested.

Sorry, this 16 year old girl was not molested.

Maybe if she was 6 or maybe even 12.

16?

Unless it was against her will, she was NOT molested.

coadie · #37 09-22-2010, 08:09 AM

If the charge is true, the man has no excuse. If the case is not true, he still didn't have boundaries, accountability and hedges in place.

She at her age can't make informed and good decisions.
1 She can have an abortion without parental consent
2 An abortionist if she was preggers would not report this to the law
3 They teach sexual misconduct early and often in public schools
4 The safe schools czar is actually pushing education for promiscous behaviors.

Jermyn Davidson · #38 09-22-2010, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

What is weird is how so far, there are people saying the pastor is innocent until proven guilty (even though the article says he admitted guilt) and the girl is being given down the road. The balance is way off here.

I agree in part.

The Pastor has admitted guilt so he is not "innocent".

scotty · #39 09-22-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG

I am not sure what side you are arguing.

Both sides. I have said the pastor is guilty. And its easy to throw the book at him and point fingers and say lock the pervert up and problem solved. But even then the problem is not solved. Nobody wants to confront the other side of the problem. No body wants to bring themselves to admit that we have a problem today with our teenagers not being as angelic as we like to think. Until this side of the problem comes to your living room you can hide your head in the sand. I can't.

Maybe today or tommorow I will tell my story. Not sure I have time today, not sure if most will understand or stick their nose in the air like some in my church and say "well thats just your daughter, mine would never do that". Yet I have proof on my daughters computer that their daughters were no different. But I didnt tell them, dont feel thats my place.

Either way, until or unless you live through it, see it face to face, I understand why I appear sick to you. Believe me, I wish I no experience to comment in a thread such as this.

ILG · #40 09-22-2010, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Sorry, this 16 year old girl was not molested.

Maybe if she was 6 or maybe even 12.

16?

Unless it was against her will, she was NOT molested.

The sway of an authority figure that she trusted makes this molestation in my opinion. Ever hear of the Stockholm syndrome? Was Elizabeth Smart guilty for not running and yelling while she was in public?