How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Ghost?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by coadie

Why should we take what you feel litterally?

When we ask you at what point in Genesis we are to start taking the scripture litterally, You weasel away from an answer. No courage?

I answered you. Many times. No memory? No brains?

You have still never answered any of my questions.

BTW - my nephew who was born with a three chambered heart is doing much better now. Thankfully the surgeons understood biological evolution and knew just how to remedy the situation.

To keep this thread on target and to help you to try and find some courage: http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...087#post954087

[coadie]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I answered you. Many times. No memory? No brains?

You have still never answered any of my questions.

BTW - my nephew who was born with a three chambered heart is doing much better now. Thankfully the surgeons understood biological evolution and knew just how to remedy the situation.

To keep this thread on target and to help you to try and find some courage: http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...087#post954087

You are wrong on several regards.
Number one you can't count. The case of the 3 chambered heart adding adding a chamber means it needs another set of valves and needed to grow a ventricular septum and close it. By re routing the blood flow we have a fatal defect.

You cited a case of a decrease in chambers. i cited a case where we had not seen an animal increase the number of heart chambers.

You seemed to have missed that in evolution claims. Was this an atrial septal defect or a VSD? I have seen many kinds of cardio defects.

so you can't give an example of an animal growing a new and functional additional heart chamber.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by coadie

You are wrong on several regards.
Number one you can't count. The case of the 3 chambered heart adding adding a chamber means it needs another set of valves and needed to grow a ventricular septum and close it. By re routing the blood flow we have a fatal defect.

You cited a case of a decrease in chambers. i cited a case where we had not seen an animal increase the number of heart chambers.

You seemed to have missed that in evolution claims. Was this an atrial septal defect or a VSD? I have seen many kinds of cardio defects.

so you can't give an example of an animal growing a new and functional additional heart chamber.

Why don't you summon up the courage to take this to the correct thread?

The "defect" arises because one gene fails to be expressed and thus an enzyme is lacking in fetal development. On the evolution thread there is a host of articles and all sorts of information that you were to afraid to address.

And so, you "respond" by taking a cheap shot in a thread dealing with the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Pathetic, but typical for "crack pipe coadie."

[Justin]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I can understand saying a "refreshing" better.

That's how I always understood it. I'm not sure if you can "lose" the Holy Ghost, but you sure can suppress Him with your flesh.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by coadie

1 Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul ...
Now, the LORD's Spirit had left Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.


Psalms 51:11

11 - Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

Your preception of these contexts are faulty.

The Lord at not left Saul alone, He sent a "evil" spirit to "torment" him. He was still dealing with Saul, just in a different way.

King David was a artistic and moody temperment, he was expressing is mood and seeking after the Lord. Not stating a doctrine.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Why don't you summon up the courage to take this to the correct thread?
The "defect" arises because one gene fails to be expressed and thus an enzyme is lacking in fetal development. On the evolution thread there is a host of articles and all sorts of information that you were to afraid to address.

And so, you "respond" by taking a cheap shot in a thread dealing with the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Pathetic, but typical for "crack pipe coadie."

Take it to the other thread.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Your preception of these contexts are faulty.

The Lord at not left Saul alone, He sent a "evil" spirit to "torment" him. He was still dealing with Saul, just in a different way.

King David was a artistic and moody temperment, he was expressing is mood and seeking after the Lord. Not stating a doctrine.

I wasn't "stating doctrine" either. It is ironic that people can't discuss the spirit of the Lord in scriptures before the book of Acts.

1 Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul ...

[missourimary]

Originally Posted by coadie

I wasn't "stating doctrine" either. It is ironic that people can't discuss the spirit of the Lord in scriptures before the book of Acts.

1 Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul ...

Coadie, the Spirit of the Lord overshadowed people in the OT, but did not abide within them until the upper room in Acts, so 1 Sam is not talking about someone 'losing' the Holy Ghost. And actually, God never left Saul. But He did take His approval off of him.

And yes, people do discuss the Holy Ghost in scriptures before the book of Acts. Most of us just prefer to do so in context.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by missourimary

Coadie, the Spirit of the Lord overshadowed people in the OT, but did not abide within them until the upper room in Acts, so 1 Sam is not talking about someone 'losing' the Holy Ghost. And actually, God never left Saul. But He did take His approval off of him.

And yes, people do discuss the Holy Ghost in scriptures before the book of Acts. Most of us just prefer to do so in context.

Actually Acts is the earlier writings about "signs" of the infilling of the Holy Ghost. I also don't recall the Gift of Interpretation of tongues in Acts.

1 Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul ...

Hebrews 9:8

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

The signs changed.

[missourimary]

Originally Posted by coadie

Actually Acts is the earlier writings about "signs" of the infilling of the Holy Ghost. I also don't recall the Gift of Interpretation of tongues in Acts.
...
The signs changed.

So are you talking about tongues or the outpouring of the Holy Ghost?

Signs didn't change. Dispensations changed. Tongues and interpretation wouldn't be discussed in Acts. Very few messages were recorded there. Acts is a historic record of major events.

If Saul and others in the OT had been filled with the Holy Ghost in the same way that people were filled in the NT, there would have been no need for the explanations in Acts 1:8, John 20:22, John 15:26, John 16:7, John 14:17, or John 7:38, or the prophesy in Joel 2:28, or Mt 3:11.