How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Ghost? - Page 5

coadie · #41 10-05-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by missourimary

So are you talking about tongues or the outpouring of the Holy Ghost?

Signs didn't change. Dispensations changed. Tongues and interpretation wouldn't be discussed in Acts. Very few messages were recorded there. Acts is a historic record of major events.

If Saul and others in the OT had been filled with the Holy Ghost in the same way that people were filled in the NT, there would have been no need for the explanations in Acts 1:8, John 20:22, John 15:26, John 16:7, John 14:17, or John 7:38, or the prophesy in Joel 2:28, or Mt 3:11.

The dispensation changed. The High priest did an annual offering and attonement for sins. At GC every one was asked to one more time to ask for forgiveness of sins and get refilled.
I don't recall saying Saul was "filled with the Holy Ghost" in the same way.

1 Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul ...

I just posted a verse. It says what it says. How could this "spirit" depart if it wasn't in Saul?

missourimary · #42 10-05-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

I don't recall saying Saul was "filled with the Holy Ghost" in the same way.

1 Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul ...

I just posted a verse. It says what it says. How could this "spirit" depart if it wasn't in Saul?

By pulling the verse into the discussion repeatedly and indicating that most people won't discuss verses prior to Acts, it seemed as though you must think that Saul was filled with the Holy Ghost. Why bring it up repeatedly and insistently otherwise? Even your question at the end of the quote above makes me wonder if you assume that Saul was filled with the Holy Ghost.

As I said before, the Holy Ghost overshadowed people in the OT. It was a different interaction of God with His people. In my mind's eye-though clearly not a Biblical definition-more the difference between someone picking up a pair of gloves and putting them on.

coadie · #43 10-05-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by missourimary

By pulling the verse into the discussion repeatedly and indicating that most people won't discuss verses prior to Acts, it seemed as though you must think that Saul was filled with the Holy Ghost. Why bring it up repeatedly and insistently otherwise? Even your question at the end of the quote above makes me wonder if you assume that Saul was filled with the Holy Ghost.

As I said before, the Holy Ghost overshadowed people in the OT. It was a different interaction of God with His people. In my mind's eye-though clearly not a Biblical definition-more the difference between someone picking up a pair of gloves and putting them on.

Under the doctrine of once saved always saved, it is difficult for folks to bring up 10-15 examples in the bible that show someone have salvation and be filled with the Spirit and lose salvation.

Adam and Eve were born saved and confronted sin and death coupled with disobedience.

missourimary · #44 10-05-2010, 10:27 AM

Coadie, Why quote me if you aren't responding directly to what I've said? You've done that twice now. It's very confusing. You aren't responding to my statements, but flying off on new tangents every time I say something.

coadie · #45 10-05-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by missourimary

Coadie, Why quote me if you aren't responding directly to what I've said? You've done that twice now. It's very confusing. You aren't responding to my statements, but flying off on new tangents every time I say something.

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Originally Posted by missourimary
By pulling the verse into the discussion repeatedly and indicating that most people won't discuss verses prior to Acts, it seemed as though you must think that Saul was filled with the Holy Ghost.

It is interesting when people claim to know what I think and all I did was post a verse. I like to let scripture speak for itself.

Have you explained how the Spirit of the Lord left King Saul?

BrotherEastman · #46 10-05-2010, 11:34 AM

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Is this biblical? Can one be filled and lose it? Is not Christ the chief bishop of our souls? Our we not in His Hands? Is it really biblical to seek tongues and not the Holy Spirit?

I know this is an answer that is pretty basic. I do not believe one loses the HG. God's gift's are without repentance. I heard a preacher once say you have the HG, but does the HG have you. I guess in that lies the difference. Once a child of a parent, always a child of a parent. JMHO

missourimary · #47 10-05-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

It is interesting when people claim to know what I think and all I did was post a verse. I like to let scripture speak for itself.

Have you explained how the Spirit of the Lord left King Saul?

So you don't read English. That's why you don't respond to what I write, even though you quote me as though you do.

I did explain, and I didn't presume to know what you think. Since your posts are so ambiguous or off topic (I can't figure out which, it would help if you did something besides just post verses, but explain why you post them) there is no way to know what you think. I only stated that it appeared that you were following a certain thought process, by what I could make of your disjointed posts.

I will not respond to you further.

missourimary · #48 10-05-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I know this is an answer that is pretty basic. I do not believe one loses the HG. God's gift's are without repentance. I heard a preacher once say you have the HG, but does the HG have you. I guess in that lies the difference. Once a child of a parent, always a child of a parent. JMHO

BrotherEastman · #49 10-05-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie

It is interesting when people claim to know what I think and all I did was post a verse. I like to let scripture speak for itself.

Have you explained how the Spirit of the Lord left King Saul?

coadie, Jesus said he wouldn't leave us comfortless (which is not exactly the same as what Saul had in the way of anointing). The word comfortless was derived from the Greek word orphaned or fatherless that has nothing to do with Saul since Saul was in the OT. Jesus becomes our parent with a gift that he doesn't take away.

coadie · #50 10-05-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

coadie, Jesus said he wouldn't leave us comfortless (which is not exactly the same as what Saul had in the way of anointing). The word comfortless was derived from the Greek word orphaned or fatherless that has nothing to do with Saul since Saul was in the OT. Jesus becomes our parent with a gift that he doesn't take away.

No he doesn't take it away. He will allow me to push Him away. He also doesn't allow another person to take me out of His hand.

2 Peter 2:20-21 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of
the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state
has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better
for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having
known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to
them.