Do You Know That I Know That You Love Me? - Page 2

scotty · #11 10-19-2010, 10:58 AM

Your "apostolic" wife not responding ? The blank stare from your third child ? I agree with the phrases overuse now days, but this thread is addressing family, is it wrong to feel vulnerable to your family ?

Adam · #12 10-19-2010, 11:02 AM

It bothers me a lot. But, I can understand why they would not return the phrase. I've not been the nicest guy in the past. Have said some horrible things in anger in the past. Some just aren't too quick to forgive, even close family.

ThePastorsCoach · #13 10-19-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

It bothers me a lot. But, I can understand why they would not return the phrase. I've not been the nicest guy in the past. Have said some horrible things in anger in the past. Some just aren't too quick to forgive, even close family.

Maybe you could (or already have) sit down with them and share that with them and say, I am so very sorry and I can't do anything about the past but if you will allow me, I will make it up to you and THEN DO IT!
Tell them they have every right not to forgive you and you might fail again, but you are asking them to forgive you and to put the past in the past and walk on in your future and destiny together.
Get some help for your anger. There is a reason you are angry and you need professional help to get beyond it.
Ask God to forgive you, deal with your self and forgive yourself THEN ask your family in a sincere way to forgive you. They are NOT obligated to forgive you and you might need to let them know that in a humble way.
I hope you will deal with this and get some healing in yourself and in your family.
I hope this helps!
Bless you in the mighty name of Jesus!

Adam · #14 10-19-2010, 11:21 AM

My anger issues are in the past, especially when I had 911 called on me in 2008 after I threw something across the living room. (Side note, my wife's pastor many years ago talked about how he got so angry at his little dog he threw it across the room and into a wall, I wonder if 911 was ever called on him? Hmmm...) Anyway, what a night that was. Had to sleep at my Ma's that night. The one daughter that doesn't talk to me (but still lives at home) basically bullied my other daughter (we exchange I love you's all the time) to the point that she moved out at 17 to live with a friend. It came to a boiling point one night. Drama drama drama, I hate it. This never happens between me at my son, only with the females in this crew. What a deal. Anyway, I went to counseling, on my own accord. Invited my wife to attend with me, and she refused. There are about a thousand other little details I could get into, but why bother? But feel free to ask away if interested in my small little life.

ThePastorsCoach · #15 10-19-2010, 11:29 AM

LOL - I think I will pass! LOL
Was just trying to help!

Adam · #16 10-19-2010, 11:30 AM

I appreciate it, AB.

scotty · #17 10-19-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Maybe you could (or already have) sit down with them and share that with them and say, I am so very sorry and I can't do anything about the past but if you will allow me, I will make it up to you and THEN DO IT!
Tell them they have every right not to forgive you and you might fail again, but you are asking them to forgive you and to put the past in the past and walk on in your future and destiny together.
Get some help for your anger. There is a reason you are angry and you need professional help to get beyond it.
Ask God to forgive you, deal with your self and forgive yourself THEN ask your family in a sincere way to forgive you. They are NOT obligated to forgive you and you might need to let them know that in a humble way.
I hope you will deal with this and get some healing in yourself and in your family.
I hope this helps!
Bless you in the mighty name of Jesus!

Good stuff !

rgcraig · #18 10-19-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam

I think the phrase "I love you" 1) loses its effect if it is overused, and 2) sets you up as very vulnerable if you tell it to someone. Whenever I say it to my Apostolic wife, I get no response. I tell it to 2 out of 3 of my kids I get it told back to me, a blank stare from the 3rd kid (I'm in my late 40's, they are 19-21). My Ma and I say it to each other at the end of every phone conversation and email, it's sort of a tradition with us. My Dad would say "I love ya, Pal" everyday before I went off to school. Well....then he died when I was at the age of 12. Anyway, I would rather show my love via work and commitment to the person, not just throw out some banal phrase hoping I get off the hook for being a jerk otherwise.

Where in my post did I say that you have to say, "I love you" - - - the point is in whatever way they "show" their love - - the other person needs to know that you KNOW they love you. That's the point.

My son saying it at the end of our conversation was just an added plus I received yesterday.

And, why the distinction about your wife being apostolic?

rgcraig · #19 10-19-2010, 11:42 AM

Adam,

It all starts with one step. Just take a step.

notofworks · #20 10-19-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Adam,

It all starts with one step. Just take a step.

This is a very emotional thread. Very.