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10-21-2010, 01:24 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
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Originally Posted by Cindy
Just because we have freedom of speech, doesn't mean we should always speak what's on our minds.
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When should we? And who says when? Would a personal interview be a bad time to speak personally?
What was insensitive about his speech. Because of the time in which we live, and warring circumstances, openly declared acts of War against the US, this good man honestly said his emotions are a little bit of fear when he sees a dressed down Muslim come on a plane. In the same breath, he qualifies that to say "obviously not all Muslims are extremists" and gives examples of Christians. He understands that his fear is unfair, while also acknowledging he has this fear. What is possibly wrong with this?
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10-21-2010, 01:26 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
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Well, if they were there to blow up or hijack the plane, wouldn't they try to dress more inconspicuously so they could get on more easily?
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Good question. It doesn't matter. It just reminds Americans that they are getting in an airplane with "orthodox" Muslims (meaning, they don't look like their practicing neighbor down the street who wears Western clothes). Whether it's factual or not, suspicion and fear are mutually exclusive of any of that argumentation.
I think it's hypocrisy. Are people saying they don't even think twice about Arabs on an airplane wearing 6th century garb in 2010? Doh!
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10-21-2010, 01:27 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
When should we? And who says when? Would a personal interview be a bad time to speak personally?
What was insensitive about his speech. Because of the time in which we live, and warring circumstances, openly declared acts of War against the US, this good man honestly said his emotions are a little bit of fear when he sees a dressed down Muslim come on a plane. In the same breath, he qualifies that to say "obviously not all Muslims are extremists" and gives examples of Christians. He understands that his fear is unfair, while also acknowledging he has this fear. What is possibly wrong with this?
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Hope you don't mind me replying. Those are all good questions. It's entirely too bad NPR didn't ask those questions to themselves, makes me wonder what else really in play.
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10-21-2010, 01:28 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
BTW Im sad for JW but Im glad this happened. I think many liberal americans are fakes. Two faced hypocrites with all their PC stuff, racism and tolerance. The truth is they really aren't all that tolerant. Its just a political weapon they use against conservatives to demonize them that occasionally comes back to bite them in the butt.
Let's not forget Rick Sanchez while we are on this. The liberals have done more to harm race relations than fix it and more harm to the fabric of American society and security with this stuff.
If you are for border security and stopping illegal immigration you are a white angry racist....never mind the large percentage of our border patrol are hispanic. It's all politics. Islam? You know why there are so many angry Islamics? It's not because of American policies or Jews so much. It's because of they have Imams that are like Louis Farakhan who fan the flames of hatred. The uprisings in Israel began with the muslims coming out of a mosque where they were preached a social message of hate against Jews and they came out throwing rocks.
We have the same thing happening in America with races being the pawns in someone elses agenda. Same goes for gays. There are relatively few gays on the gay agenda band wagon and what gays hop on are usually caught up in someone elses extreme rhetoric.
White bigots exist but they don't become extreme until they listen to someone elses politicized hate rants
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10-21-2010, 01:29 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
When should we? And who says when? Would a personal interview be a bad time to speak personally?
What was insensitive about his speech. Because of the time in which we live, and warring circumstances, openly declared acts of War against the US, this good man honestly said his emotions are a little bit of fear when he sees a dressed down Muslim come on a plane. In the same breath, he qualifies that to say "obviously not all Muslims are extremists" and gives examples of Christians. He understands that his fear is unfair, while also acknowledging he has this fear. What is possibly wrong with this?
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I am not saying he should have been fired for what he said, or that he shouldn't have said it. There are things I will say in private that I would never say in public, none of them having to do with any group of people. I really don't even know who he is. I do think it was unfair for him to be fired for a personal statement.
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10-21-2010, 01:31 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
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Originally Posted by Sam
Well, if they were there to blow up or hijack the plane, wouldn't they try to dress more inconspicuously so they could get on more easily?
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Well maybe before you posted this! Now they'll think that no one would suspect them if they were dressed in their normal attire because that would be too obvious!
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10-21-2010, 01:36 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
BTW Im sad for JW but Im glad this happened. I think many liberal americans are fakes. Two faced hypocrites with all their PC stuff, racism and tolerance. The truth is they really aren't all that tolerant. Its just a political weapon they use against conservatives to demonize them that occasionally comes back to bite them in the butt.
Let's not forget Rick Sanchez while we are on this. The liberals have done more to harm race relations than fix it and more harm to the fabric of American society and security with this stuff.
If you are for border security and stopping illegal immigration you are a white angry racist....never mind the large percentage of our border patrol are hispanic. It's all politics. Islam? You know why there are so many angry Islamics? It's not because of American policies or Jews so much. It's because of they have Imams that are like Louis Farakhan who fan the flames of hatred. The uprisings in Israel began with the muslims coming out of a mosque where they were preached a social message of hate against Jews and they came out throwing rocks.
We have the same thing happening in America with races being the pawns in someone elses agenda. Same goes for gays. There are relatively few gays on the gay agenda band wagon and what gays hop on are usually caught up in someone elses extreme rhetoric.
White bigots exist but they don't become extreme until they listen to someone elses politicized hate rants
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uh, oh......
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10-21-2010, 01:42 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
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Originally Posted by sandie
Hope you don't mind me replying. Those are all good questions. It's entirely too bad NPR didn't ask those questions to themselves, makes me wonder what else really in play.
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CAIR sent a note. The Muslims went ballistic and NPR reacted swiftly.
NPR was rapidly bullied by Muslims.
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10-21-2010, 01:49 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
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Originally Posted by coadie
CAIR sent a note. The Muslims went ballistic and NPR reacted swiftly.
NPR was rapidly bullied by Muslims.
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Oh, I hadn't heard that CAIR chimed in on this.
Things are only going to get worse with the PC stuff, since Soros has made it his business to make sure the media goes along with his agenda by buying them.
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10-21-2010, 02:00 PM
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Re: Juan Williams
If it's true it's just as sad that NPR would cowl in fear of an Islamic political activist group
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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