Apostolic Identity?? - Page 7

whoami · #61 10-26-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I must admit I didn't watch the entire thing. My attention span didn't survive. But I know that in that setting, Martin called Urshan his brother and he knew going in what Urshan's theological views were.

I'm guessing that he may have been saying that if Urshan denied the existence...at all....of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, he wouldn't consider him a brother.

It was something like that, and it was towards the end. I was pretty disappointed in Martin at that point. If I remember right, Martin kept asking the questions, "Am I or am I not your brother in Christ?" but when Urshan posed it back to him Martin said "If you deny the existance of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit you are not my brother in Christ." I may not have that exactly right, but that's what I remember. I'll have to check it tonight. At that point I decided they were both childish and the whole thing was pointless because they were both acting like children. "You can't be in my club unless you ____!"

notofworks · #62 10-26-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

I tried to become DB's friend on FB. He has too many friends.

And he won't answer questions.

Praxeas · #63 10-26-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Where did he say that, exactly?

1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

notofworks · #64 10-26-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas

1Co 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

But he didn't say follow me as I follow Christ.

sandie · #65 10-26-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I'm sorry, but when a significant group of people are claiming that it's their way or no way, that everyone else in the theological world is wrong, when NA Urshan found it impossible to call Walter Martin a "Brother" when Martin had no problem calling Urshan a brother, then it looks like "spewing." Sorry, but it's the truth.

There's no hostility here, just an honest evaluation of what it really is.

And by the way, it appears as though you're new here at AFF and I, for one, just want to say that I'm glad you're here!

Yes, I'm new here and thanks so much for the kind welcome.
Guess we just have a differing view of "spewing", anyway the only real spewing I'm concerned about is the one Jesus talks about! yikes

whoami · #66 10-26-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

I'll go look for it again, but it seems he challenged Urshan to call him a brother in Christ and Urshan wouldn't do it, and during the challenge, he said, "I'll call you that, but can you do the same?" or something to that effect. It would be kind of a stupid point to challenge a person to call you a brother if you couldn't do the same to them. One would only be pointing out his own exclusivity.

Exactly why I was so disgusted with it. I can't access youtube right now but I'll look it up tonight.

Cindy · #67 10-26-2010, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks

Where did he say that, exactly?

1 Corinthians 11:1 KJV

Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.

notofworks · #68 10-26-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by whoami

It was something like that, and it was towards the end. I was pretty disappointed in Martin at that point. If I remember right, Martin kept asking the questions, "Am I or am I not your brother in Christ?" but when Urshan posed it back to him Martin said "If you deny the existance of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit you are not my brother in Christ." I may not have that exactly right, but that's what I remember. I'll have to check it tonight. At that point I decided they were both childish and the whole thing was pointless because they were both acting like children. "You can't be in my club unless you ____!"

I couldn't agree more, although, Urshan looked completely out of his league and I felt sorry for him. Martin knew how to fight and Urshan didn't...at least, not face to face.

I think Martin was saying that if one doesn't believe in the existence of the three, not necessarily, the co-existence. I suppose on that technicality, I'd agree with him.