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10-30-2010, 09:01 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by Cindy
I like jewelry.
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So does God....
Ezekiel 16:11-13 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck. (12) And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head. (13) Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
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10-30-2010, 11:54 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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10-31-2010, 06:54 PM
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Loren Adkins
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by mfblume
So does God....
Ezekiel 16:11-13 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck. (12) And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head. (13) Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
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That's what gets me, how some can read passages like this and still mistranslate passages to fit thier own narrow minded outlook. And put everyone not like them into hell. AH well I used to be one of them all I can say is "I did not understand" at least when I got ahold of some real meat of the word I grew out of the diapers, to nickers, then to real pants. LOL
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11-01-2010, 01:34 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Not so fast there
Rom 15:26
26 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the POOR saints which are at Jerusalem.
KJV
Now does that mean they were literally beggars or just described there financial/material state??
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Ahhh yes....typical Truthseeker "apologetics," I can't explain Js.....so I run to Rom. to invalidate the word meaning that I supplied from some of the most authoritative lexicons on the planet! Your argument is w/ Thayer, Vine, etc....not me!
Ho-Hum......................
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11-01-2010, 01:37 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by Maximilian
Oh my... not a TV! Let me guess, you twist some other scripture to dogmatize television prohibitions. 
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Of course, to begin a dialogue on the evils of T.V. w/ you would be about like pouring water on duck's back. If you cannot even comprehend "not with gold jewelry," you're certainly not gonna' understand the evils of Hollywood....go figure  !
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11-01-2010, 01:40 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by rdp
Ahhh yes....typical Truthseeker "apologetics," I can't explain Js.....so I run to Rom. to invalidate the word meaning that I supplied from some of the most authoritative lexicons on the planet! Your argument is w/ Thayer, Vine, etc....not me!
Ho-Hum......................
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rdp,
You made the point that there weren't any Christians who were "beggars" based on Psalms, I assume to illustrate that the poor man in James wasn't a Christian.
However, Romans uses the same word for "poor" to describe saints. Obviously there WERE poor saints, and the same word that you ascribed as "beggar" was used to describe them.
So which is it? Were there poor (beggars) people in the NT church or not?
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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11-01-2010, 01:41 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by Maximilian
Wow. Sometimes you show moments of great competence, and then it's all deducted away when you say things like this, RDP.
"Incompetence indeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed"....keep reading.
Are you suggesting the correct word for our English translation in the passage is "beggar" because that's one of those "denotations?" Seriously? And are you suggesting that none of God's children has ever been so poor they've had to beg for money? Have you been to Africa, Bro. RDP?
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I see, so anomalies [Africa] set the precedent for the norm eh' Max!?!? You folks on here should honestly invest some-time in the study of formal logical fallacies...you commit them all the time, as exemplified here.
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11-01-2010, 01:42 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by Maximilian
Bingo!
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How funny....I didn't even care to respond to his post it was so elementary. Why am I not surprised at your "bingo"  ????
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11-01-2010, 01:48 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by rdp
I see, so anomalies [Africa] set the precedent for the norm eh' Max!?!? You folks on here should honestly invest some-time in the study of formal logical fallacies...you commit them all the time, as exemplified here.
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More than 80% of the world lives in poverty. I'd hardly consider that an anomaly. And an entire continent, if we considered only Africa, is hardly an anomaly. What a racist thing to say.
Throwing out Logic 101 terms does not help your argument, my friend.
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11-01-2010, 01:53 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...
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Originally Posted by rdp
How funny....I didn't even care to respond to his post it was so elementary. Why am I not surprised at your "bingo"  ????
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Do you know how to contribute to the discussion by doing more than flinging insults left and right?  Actually try to support your statements with facts, scripture and rationale, for goodness' sake!
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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