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Originally Posted by Godsdrummer
What fruit are you looking for?
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Or maybe you see the works of the flesh that you are calling lack of fruit,
Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
First the fruits are not something you will see are they? You have to get to know someone to know if the fruit is in thier lives. So then you must be judging by some outward apperance.
Jesus said we shall be known by our love one to another. Again this is not something one can see on the outside.
No Brother you are missing the point, you don't know if someone has or is walking in relationship with God or not, until you get to know them. And futher just calling oneself a Christian does not make you a Christian either.
Just some thing to think about, In all the ministry of Christ there was not one bit of difference between him and anyone else on the outside. It was not until you got to know him personaly. We must stop trying to hard to be so different from the world by dress, and be different by spirit.
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A Tree and Its Fruit
43 “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. 44 Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. 45 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of.
when a person who confesses themselves as christians. curses like a sailor, and no regards to those around them, or carries themself in a manner not depicting I.e. being a drunk living in adultry, etc etc, yet still call themselves christians.
who produces evil fruit, back biter, slandering or gossiper, You know there fruits
sir God gave us a spirit of discernment, its almost like your trying to defend the black sheep in the fold saying well there not mean wolves.
yes sir i can look at there fruits, i know we are not perfect, but there is a attitude adjustment that happends with everyone, <-- everyone not just someone when they come to Christ.
Im not talking about standards or the way they dress, or how long there hair is, or if there wearing jewlery. Im talking about the intentions of there heart.
and if the tree is producing bad fruit, then its not good. and if you cant see that you need to ask God for a discerning spirit.
Man i preach at a rescue mission, they have no standards, so please dont give me this external lecture. A person comes up to me cuts a dirty Joke, bad tree, some one cursing on there cell phone, bad tree.
some one who doesnt care about God, bad tree. you dont have to know anyone in depth to figure this out. use your discerning Spirit