Pornography and Disability

[Aquila]

What strikes me is that most here are supposed experts on the subject... but aren't even willing to admit their own experience with it.

Careful, if you're honest, you might be called a porn addict when you were no where near the addict level. People can't stand honesty any more. The moral posturing begins to play the "I'm holier than thou." game.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Absolutely true. Porn is often the fuel for sex, not the resolution to lack of sex.

Fuel for sex? I'm not sure I understand your comment. I don't know that porn addicts are really "fueled" to have sex with their wives. People who are addicted to porn are addicted to a world that isn't real. If anything, they'll be fueled to look for sex in places they shouldn't.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

I wouldn't condemn a person for pornography at all. Whether it's acceptable or not is a different question entirely.

[rgcraig]

Another good post:

Originally Posted by NotforSale

This is part of our problem today. We always think our troubles are worse today than yesterday. Sexual perversion has always infected this Planet.

A brief study about past civilizations proves this, beyond a doubt. The Romans were known for their radical orgies and twisted sexual appetites that would make our skin crawl.

Paul had to tackle this problem, as the Church of Corinth was full of incest. Imagine the days where Polygamy was the norm. Look at David, Samson, and everyone else in the Old Testament who fell into the clutches of immorality.

Yes, Internet Porn is a huge problem, but this is just another way to send people into the gutter sexually, but never forget, the gutter has ALWAYS been there.

This subject is a matter of conscience. I studied this problem for 10 years and wrote a book about it. Sexual addiction is just that, an addiction. We can fall headlong into this if we don't LISTEN to our conscience. Pornography is dark and evil. This is not rocket science. It's fake, and empty, and the conscience God gave us will send off the alarm if we'll listen.

Anyone who reads this and has had an experience with Pornography knows what I'm talking about. Looking at Porn leaves you feeling dirty, empty, and unfulfilled. Just like drugs. The initial "Rush" may seem pleasant but the end result is a complete let down.

The more we face this problem with the simplicity and reality of what it is, the more we can conquer this World which is nothing more than a fantasy that has always put people in the prison of shame.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Aquila

What strikes me is that most here are supposed experts on the subject... but aren't even willing to admit their own experience with it.

Careful, if you're honest, you might be called a porn addict when you were no where near the addict level.

Aquila, sharing "experience" either involves confessing a personal sin or, even more invasive, sharing an experience of someone close that was probably supposed to be kept in confidence. Neither of those are necessary to this thread.

I could tell several detailed stories, and it wouldn't really contribute anything of value to this thread. I don't need to confess that I've lied in my life or that I know someone who has in order to have an opinion (and a good opinion) about lying. Kwim?

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Fuel for sex? I'm not sure I understand your comment. I don't know that porn addicts are really "fueled" to have sex with their wives. People who are addicted to porn are addicted to a world that isn't real. If anything, they'll be fueled to look for sex in places they shouldn't.

Exactly.

To the point of not even wanting sex with another person.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Fuel for sex? I'm not sure I understand your comment. I don't know that porn addicts are really "fueled" to have sex with their wives. People who are addicted to porn are addicted to a world that isn't real. If anything, they'll be fueled to look for sex in places they shouldn't.

Oh, absolutely they are. I've known men who couldn't.....ahem...."perform" without first viewing porn. Sure, there are men who sink back into a world of fantasy, but there are many more who seek to experience their fantasies or at least experience sex and during that sexual encounter, think about their fantasies.

[Aquila]

Jesus said,

Matthew 5:28
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Please note: This doesn’t say that if a man admires a woman’s beauty in his thoughts he has committed adultery. It also doesn’t say that if a man thinks about what it would be like to be with a given woman he’s committed adultery. Jesus doesn’t say that if a man has a fantasy about being with a given woman that he’s committed adultery. Nor does Jesus say that if a young adult who is engaged happens to fantasize about being with their wife-to-be that they’ve committed adultery.

Jesus says that if a man looks at a woman with the intent “to lust after her”… he’s committed adultery “in his heart”. I think that the issue is the intent of the heart. If you look upon a woman with a true intent to pursue her with the desire to use her, you’ve already crossed the line in your heart. Now, if you look at a woman and you’re star struck and in love. And you’re talking to her and getting to know her. And she’s in your thoughts. And you’re hoping she could be the one you’ll marry. You’ve not sinned at all.

Didn’t the lovers in the Song of Solomon fantasize about each other? Was it a sin?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Aquila, sharing "experience" either involves confessing a personal sin or, even more invasive, sharing an experience of someone close that was probably supposed to be kept in confidence. Neither of those are necessary to this thread.

I could tell several detailed stories, and it wouldn't really contribute anything of value to this thread. I don't need to confess that I've lied in my life or that I know someone who has in order to have an opinion (and a good opinion) about lying. Kwim?

Wasn't my point. But I agree.

I was just miffed for being implicated as a porn addict when I was in the Army and we'd check out the Playmate of the month on occasion. lol

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Exactly.

To the point of not even wanting sex with another person.

That can happen, sure, but it's not, at all, automatic. Quite frequently, porn becomes a great stimulant for sex and in other instances, it leads to sexual desperation to the point it results in rape and sexual assaults. This info can be found on the net, but at the root of many rapes is a very serious problem with porn. The porn industry will always issue their own studies trying to disprove it, but one of the greatest dangers of porn is sexual abuses of all kinds. Like I said, porn often fuels sex.