I'm stepping away for 20 minutes. I'll actually be standing at our checkpoint where the TSA screens passengers. One of my buddies is a TSA BDO, his job is quite interesting. I've considered applying for it. I'll watch the passangers going through screening and report what I see when I return.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I'm willing to wager that in a lot of these cases of alleged "groping" it's TSA cowboys who are going too far. They need to be disciplined.
How about being fired....just get them out of there, no second chances. The public may feel better about this invasion of privacy if they knew for a fact that this kind of behavior was dealt with fast and furious.
Also... Aquila... you keep saying... you don't have to fly... that's your right.
Apparently not because the guy that refused to be groped the other day and then chose his "right" to travel another way is having an $11,000 fine assessed against him for exercising that right even after TSA goons told him the same thing you are saying.
Let's assume you work for the TSA and a federal security directive is issued for a certain procedure that is invasive. The directive is issued because of creditable threats. Do you now have probable cause to become more invasive?
no.
and further, the invasive seach proceedures are not the best proceedures to catch the guys that need to be caught.
Now, if the TSA has a tip that FERD may try to do something really bad, then when FERD walks into an airport, they have the right to arrest me and do a legal investagation that might include a full body cavity search. but they need a court order to do so.
The good news is FERD doesnt have any intention of getting on a plane any time soon and FERD does not have any desire to do harm to any living human being... next year however, there is a better than zero chance that FERD will be seeking to do harm to a deer.... I dont think the TSA cares so long as the harm I intend for deer will not take place in the air.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
So, I'm driving along and a policeman can just pull me over because he wants to? I don't have to be breaking a law?
Great point. The same junk they use to say we have no right to ask illegals their citizenship in arizona will backfore on this DOJ when they say they can do crotch checks without reasonible cause.
You can't use one argument in arizona and use the reverse of it at the airport.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
That my friend is a constitutional right exetended by the constitution. not by God.
the declaration of independence is not a legal guiding document. It was a justification for insurection against an unjust king.
and it was backed by the blood of the patriots.
"inalienable" applies to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" found in the declairation. NOT to rights extended by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
it is a very fine distinction but a very important legal distinction.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
and further, the invasive seach proceedures are not the best proceedures to catch the guys that need to be caught.
Now, if the TSA has a tip that FERD may try to do something really bad, then when FERD walks into an airport, they have the right to arrest me and do a legal investagation that might include a full body cavity search. but they need a court order to do so.
The good news is FERD doesnt have any intention of getting on a plane any time soon and FERD does not have any desire to do harm to any living human being... next year however, there is a better than zero chance that FERD will be seeking to do harm to a deer.... I dont think the TSA cares so long as the harm I intend for deer will not take place in the air.
I hear a bunch of preachers went pheasant hunting in Kansas. They all flew except one who drove a car with the guns. Guns still move. States will need border controls.
That my friend is a constitutional right exetended by the constitution. not by God.
the declaration of independence is not a legal guiding document. It was a justification for insurection against an unjust king.
and it was backed by the blood of the patriots.
"inalienable" applies to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" found in the declairation. NOT to rights extended by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
it is a very fine distinction but a very important legal distinction.
So... the amendments to the constitution are only extended (although I do not accept that hypothesis) when convenient?
We can bypass the 4th amendment to the constitution?
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