Can we spare 5 million to build the Mosque?

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

If they get 5 million I hope they buy a LOT Of turkeys for all the poor people. If it's simply to build a "cultural" center then many will see this as bait and switch.

They said "this is a cultural center for everyone", yet it's a mosque...a place for Muslims to worship at and Heathens not to.

No, I think they are wanting to use their building space for typical social organizations/non-profits to provide services -- it's good PR if so. The same way many churches get funds for drug recovery classes/programs, boarding/hospitality, etc...

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

No, I think they are wanting to use their building space for typical social organizations/non-profits to provide services -- it's good PR if so. The same way many churches get funds for drug recovery classes/programs, boarding/hospitality, etc...

You "think"

No sources of course.

The news first broke this morning at The Daily Beast, where writer John Avalon (a former Giuliani speechwriter) reports that two sources have told him Park 51 is seeking $5 million in redevelopment grants. Park51 has since confirmed the news with a brief blog post on its site noting that the money will go to social services projects, such as domestic violence prevention and arts programming, and it will also provide hundreds of construction jobs.

Construction jobs to render domestic violence services?

http://www.observer.com/2010/real-es...-5-m-911-funds

Cordoba House Ground Zero ,Classrooms for terrorist training is vital for taking over NYC.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Socialite

No, I think they are wanting to use their building space for typical social organizations/non-profits to provide services -- it's good PR if so. The same way many churches get funds for drug recovery classes/programs, boarding/hospitality, etc...

5 Million for drug recovery/classes? 5 Million to build a multipurpose building that sometimes will be for "social" services and the rest of the time for religious?

Anyways...

Developers of the controversial Islamic center proposed for two blocks from Ground Zero reportedly are asking the federal government to give them $5 million to help fund the project from a grant designed to rebuild downtown Manhattan after the 9/11 attacks.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/11/22...#ixzz163hnsGmk

[Praxeas]

"In November 2010, Park51 submitted several grant requests to the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, a New York state agency. The agency was established to help redevelop Lower Manhattan’s economy after the 9/11 attacks," the proposed center, Park51, reports on its website.

At least one of those requests was submitted under the Lower Manhattan Community and Cultural Enhancement Program, and amounted to roughly $5 million, sources told the Daily Beast.
"Park51’s grant requests cover a variety of short-term programming and site construction costs," the center's website says. "The programming includes Arabic Language classes, a variety of consultation and referral services, a homeless veterans rehabilitation program, and a series of art exhibitions."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/11/22...#ixzz163iSgsxS

[Socialite]

Well, the grant coadie is posting, says they are between $100,000 and $1M. So perhaps the remaining $4M are in the form of other grants?

Regarding the size of the grants -- all depends on what is being done and what human resources are involved, etc...

[Socialite]

The grants will range from $100,000 to $1 million, according to Julie Menin, chair of Community Board 1 and a member of the LMDC board. Among the criteria used to judge applications, Menin said, are financial viability, job creation, revitalizing the community and a track record of service in Lower Manhattan.

All subject to meeting qualifications. Still $5M is unconfirmed.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

All subject to meeting qualifications. Still $5M is unconfirmed.

No kidding. They want openess and dialogue and act sneaky.

They purchased the property for 4.85 million. To do demolition and site prep would take 5 million before they could start their 100 million dollar 13 story Cordoba Mosque. Since 2005 they had raised 100,000 dollars for construction according to Mz Kahn who is married to the Imam.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

No kidding. They want openess and dialogue and act sneaky.

They purchased the property for 4.85 million. To do demolition and site prep would take 5 million before they could start their 100 million dollar 13 story Cordoba Mosque. Since 2005 they had raised 100,000 dollars for construction according to Mz Kahn who is married to the Imam.

Who says they are acting sneaky? You're assuming "unconfirmed" means it's true but that they aren't saying. You arent even considering it's not true! The source has not confirmed the 5M figure. It could be wrong. Is someone jumping to conclusions??? Nah... can't be

The grant says on multiple sources, it gives out grants between $100k and $1M.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Who says they are acting sneaky? You're assuming "unconfirmed" means it's true but that they aren't saying. You arent even considering it's not true! The source has not confirmed the 5M figure. It could be wrong. Is someone jumping to conclusions??? Nah... can't be

The grant says on multiple sources, it gives out grants between $100k and $1M.

The grant doesn't say anything. You may mean the LMDC says that.

Several posts ago you said it was a loan. Earlier you claimed it wasn't Federal money.


You don't get it. You don't read the links. Try to. The LMDC doesn't ever discuss applications by name they say. Is that hard to understand? The Muslim Real estate dude may have applied for 10 grants totalling 5 million. We don't know. We do know his "non profit" still isn't set up so that means they can't handle the money in accordance with IRS rules.

http://www.dos.state.ny.us/corps/faq..._info.page.asp

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by coadie

The grant doesn't say anything. You may mean the LMDC says that.

Several posts ago you said it was a loan. Earlier you claimed it wasn't Federal money.

Get over it. Let it go. I admited several posts ago that I misspoke. I wasn't under the impression that it was a loan or grant, I typed quickly and put loan. Now let it go.... you haven't proven anything!

You don't get it. You don't read the links. Try to. The LMDC doesn't ever discuss applications by name they say. Is that hard to understand? The Muslim Real estate dude may have applied for 10 grants totalling 5 million. We don't know. We do know his "non profit" still isn't set up so that means they can't handle the money in accordance with IRS rules.
That means he's not ELIGIBLE to receive grants then is he!! SO THERE'S NO STORY UNTIL HE IS!!! Get that through your thick skull. The $5M figure is unconfirmed... meaning a journalist at some blog could have made it up for all we know. Not that it materially changes the nature of anything on this post


http://www.dos.state.ny.us/corps/faq..._info.page.asp