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Originally Posted by onefaith2
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Originally Posted by mfblume
The text is not in error. lol. That is not the point. How many times must I say that God does not contradict Himself by using jewelry as a holy illustration if wearing jewelry is wrong? The context of Paul's and Peter's words must fit with that overall common sense thought.
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How is God contradicting himself? In the new convenant ladies are exhorted to adorn the heart rather than the outward. How does that contradict God?
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Adorning the heart RATHER THAN the outward is not contradictory to using jewelry as a holy illustration. I never said it was. But what IS contradictory is saying wearing jewelry is sin or jewelry is forbidden when God used it as a holy illustration. In other words, the "rather" point is fine! Great! Just do not forbid it and nor say it is sin.
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If jewelry wearing was so important and a non issue, how come we only have scripture saying a Lady should refrain from outward adorning in order to adorn the heart.
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That is the point, we have lots more scripture showing jewelry in a favourable light. EVERYBODY believes the inward is RATHER our focus than the outward. And that is what Peter and Paul stated. But that is not the debate. The debate is whether it is forbidden or is sin.
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We don't have any scripture that says if they wore it or not but it would indicate they did wear jewelry, based on Paul and Peter's exhortation for them to adorn the heart, rather then the outward. Another words it did'nt seem to be an issue till the writing of the epistles..
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the point is I still say you are putting an issue where there really never was an issue to begin or to end with! That is, the issue of jewelry being wrong. It does not say it is wrong to wear it. It just says "RATHER" stress the inward.
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In your eyes my HG conviction is a straw argument and has no sense whatever. Thanks Mike, I now know that the voice of God I have yearned to hear and heard for a while now is a fake
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Believe what you want, but you are changing the issue when the entire issue is whether or not jewelry is forbidden today. You have to stand before God with your convictions, not me. So have at it! That was not the issue either, though.
I never said your conviction is a strawman argument either, by the way. I said your explanations are strawman arguments, like the first phrase you made in this post. No one said adorning the heart RATHER than the outward was the problem. It's claiming that means never wear jewelry that is the problem.