Obey them that have the rule over you

[Scott Pitta]

Sean,

I took a quick peak at the site you recommended. The KJV and the NIV are translated from different manuscript traditions. Therefore, the resulting translation is different.

Just for fun, compare how the NT quotes the OT. Lots of variations. Not all of them due to translating from one language to another. The situation is complex.

Have a great day of worship !!

[Sean]

You have a great day also. If you want a little more background on the fallicy of the NIV's Alexandrian text, I would gladly share what I have bro. God bless.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Dante

Everyone is so obsessed with authority and leadership. Get over yourselves.

We are not obsessed with authority and leadership... unless you understand that we are seeking it out with all our hearts, and want - with all our hearts - the kind of leadership that built the early NT church.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

Some folks may be obsessed and feel today's modern ministry is trying to be too intimidating.
Personally, I am obsessed with bringing the Full Ministry back into the picture, as it was for
the Church at Pentecost. The Church operated at its best because the Ministry was at its best!

Lip service was not good enough for men like Peter, John, and Paul.

Amen!

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Sean,

I took a quick peak at the site you recommended. The KJV and the NIV are translated from different manuscript traditions. Therefore, the resulting translation is different.

Just for fun, compare how the NT quotes the OT. Lots of variations. Not all of them due to translating from one language to another. The situation is complex.

Have a great day of worship !!

The KJV still has that fabricated Trinitarian verse 1 John 5:7
All modern bibles have already dumped that verse, it is time for the KJV to join the crowd and dump that inserted verse.

[Scott Pitta]

Our pastor preached a great sermon today. He has a sense of humility that I find refreshing.

Comparing a NIV with a KJV is like comparing a Tyndale Bible with a Vulgate. Differences ? Yes. Is one a better Bible than the other ? By what measurement ???

[mfblume]

the entire stream of bibles from the Catholic Nestle's text and not the Textus Receptus, have changes and alterations in them that are the results of people whose philosophy is they can treat the bible like any old ancient book subject to change, and that God did not preserve His word supernaturally. So, I cannot trust any of that strain whatsoever. The philosophy behind them is way too questionable and carnal. They're of the ilk of the Jesus Seminar people who dissect more and more out of the New Testament every year.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Our pastor preached a great sermon today. He has a sense of humility that I find refreshing.

Comparing a NIV with a KJV is like comparing a Tyndale Bible with a Vulgate. Differences ? Yes. Is one a better Bible than the other ? By what measurement ???

Your pastor needs his eyes opened bro.

The KJV is derived from a collection of nearly 2000 identical(in most cases) documents.(Textus Receptus).

The single manuscript used in the NIV was found in a wastebasket.

The translators for the Greek/English text used to create the NIV were Jesuit priests disguised as Protestants, trying to create a bible to counteract the reformation. Their names were Westcott/Hort.

Check out this video and it will clarify what I am saying.......





https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...83829542,d.aWw

[Scott Pitta]

Oops, my blunder. Blame it on a football game distraction.

Pastor preached today out of John chapter 8. The comments about the Bible translations were my own thoughts.

Textual criticism deserves a post of its own. I certainly have no desire to start one.

My favorite pastor ever was Kenneth Haney. Yes, I was spoiled.

[Sean]

Bro. Haney pastored us over 20 years. I knew him well bro.