Are all Catholics lost?

[houston]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Oh, did I happen to mention that all Muslims and Catholics are lost?

Also all Calvinists.

All Calvinists will be on the very lowest rung of hell.

Thanks.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by houston

Thanks.

Didn't know you were a Catholic, Muslim and definitely didn't know you were Calvinist.

[shazeep]

well to be fair that is hardly a complete list, is it. And where does it end? Isn't it essentially @ "everyone who disagrees with me and my interpretation?"

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well to be fair that is hardly a complete list, is it. And where does it end? Isn't it essentially @ "everyone who disagrees with me and my interpretation?"

Nope. It's everyone who does not abide by the bible who are lost. This is why all your assumed descriptions of our beliefs are wrong. You refuse to accept our main point we plainly state, so you can stick to your assumption as though it were foolproof, and end up making accusations that don't apply.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Nope. It's everyone who does not abide by the bible who are lost. This is why all your assumed descriptions of our beliefs are wrong. You refuse to accept our main point we plainly state, so you can stick to your assumption as though it were foolproof, and end up making accusations that don't apply.

You see the above still requires that people allow themselves to be led by the Spirit of Truth. Which will guide them into all truth. Shazeep is a product of the internet Religious SJWs who strive to be nicer than Jesus. They whine, they complain, and yearn to buy the world a Coke and keep it company.

[shazeep]

i have never claimed that anyone was saved, however, so you have gotten the wrong idea, i think. My claim is that you do not know, and have forgotten humility. Good fruit comes from good trees. Seek your own salvation clearly tells one that any dogma men may produce is subject to corruption, and when the first adherent to anyone's interpretation of Acts 2:38 falls into sin you are free to seek a better interpretation.

A wolf in sheep's clothes might also be better understood here. Since no one of course would describe themselves this way, it becomes incumbent upon an individual to discern what is meant by this, and if one allows Scripture to guide them a description emerges of someone who is not practicing any one of the gifts of the Spirit, essentially, even though there are surely other Scriptural metrics.

Sorry, but i am not aware of what an "SJW" is, and i have no complaint here, so i am not getting you i guess. Wadr you both seem intent upon inflating self at others' expense, and yet you both claim to be pastors? So you denounce me as a whiner, when i actually must try to overcome some measure of pride every time you post, for my own part. There is no law against the gifts of the Spirit; no valid complaint may be brought against them; so if someone does have a complaint against you, it will be judged for its validity whether you bother or not. If your complaint against me is that i am putting too much emphasis on kindness and not enough on the law you have embraced? then i had better at least work on my kindness so as not to be judged such a hypocrite

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Nope. It's everyone who does not abide by the bible who are lost. This is why all your assumed descriptions of our beliefs are wrong. You refuse to accept our main point we plainly state, so you can stick to your assumption as though it were foolproof, and end up making accusations that don't apply.

you seem to imagine being in some group that the poll does not support, Mike.

[shazeep]

17And if you address as Father the One who judges impartially based on each one's work, you are to conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your temporary residence.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

you seem to imagine being in some group that the poll does not support, Mike.

I always said the poll does not address the actual issue.

[shazeep]

well, there are lots of issues that the poll does not address, admittedly, but it def addresses the point you evaded. The poll was intended to address your assertion of "All Catholics are lost" as being a tenet of OP, and does just fine in addressing that issue imo.