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Old 10-04-2017, 04:56 PM
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Re: Apparent mass shooting on Las Vegas Strip

By the way, it received ATF approval under the BHO admin.
It was marketed as helping people who had disabilities.
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On June 7, 2010 -- about a year and a half into the Barack Obama administration -- the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives issued an opinion letter, giving the go-ahead to an after-market accessory that allows the user to “bump fire” a semi-automatic rifle.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:03 PM
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Re: Apparent mass shooting on Las Vegas Strip

Prior to that commie FDR's betrayal of America, you could mail order machine guns, silencers, grenades, 20mm anti aircraft rifles, howitzers, whatever. Straight to your door step. No paperwork. Cash and carry. Relatively cheap, too.

But, crashing the economy, confiscating everyone's gold, stealing their bank deposits and devaluing the currency required putting all those weapons beyond the reach of the Average Joe - hence, the $200 tax stamp that was initiated.

But, who cares about history, there's a scandal in the NFL and some nut went off on a concert so LET'S SURRENDER MORE LIBERTY SO WE CAN BE SAAAAAAAFE!!!!

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Another bump stock video showing full auto capability

https://youtu.be/ks5idq69MN4?t=59s
At most, you could call it rapid semi-auto. It is most assuredly not fully automatic.

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I'm not talking disarmament, this isn't a ban on guns ... this is a ban on using an accessory which can turn a semi-auto into a full auto.
What's wrong with owning fully automatic weapons? I say kill the ban on automatic weapons and let us own whatever we please. The only thing a ban has ever done is prevent good guys from getting it, while the bad guys flagrantly disregard said law and still possess whatever was banned.

There isn't a single law in the world that will stop a criminal.
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Here's a video which shows the "bump fire" mod in action on an AR15. After watching this, I would be in favor of Congress passing a bill banning use of this, as well as trigger cranks.

For the record, that looks really fun. I concede that I'm a bit jealous.
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7:19 PM ˇ Oct 4, 2017 from Henderson, NV

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Per above (Herbert's works for KVVU 5) the flashes on the fourth floor were still occurring at 3 am and are on film, ergo not rifle flashes.
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Video plainly shows an automatic rifle being fired from the 4th floor also.
I'll believe it when I see the picture of s 4th floor window blown out
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I'll believe it when I see the picture of s 4th floor window blown out
It was most likely a strobe light, but in the video you hear multiple guns.
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At most, you could call it rapid semi-auto. It is most assuredly not fully automatic.
The videos posted are not semi auto. The cyclic rate is a fraction less than standard full auto (as the article in a previous post stated), but that is absolutely full auto. They're not pulling the trigger over and over.

https://youtu.be/U7DTjSla-O8?t=2m25s

I've shot a variety of handguns and rifles, including full auto to know the difference between semi auto and full auto. I haven't used a bumper stock, but know guys who have. Don't make the mistake Esaias made and arrogantly assume I'm some idiot who's never fired a gun.

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Old 10-05-2017, 04:53 AM
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https://youtu.be/U7DTjSla-O8?t=3m06s

Here's a great view of this girl firing semi auto vs full auto using the bump stock.

You can clearly see her pulling the trigger on semi auto at 3:07. From 3:18 to 3:25 is full auto. That is not semi, it is not rapid semi it is full auto.

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