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[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't see any. Now, if you say that proves you should not use deadly force then YOU are making an argument from silence. BTW where in the NT is scripture for posting on the internet? Where in the NT is scripture for anyone to drive a car? Where in the NT is scripture for anyone to do half the stuff you and I might do.

Here is a question for you, though you never answered the others, but let's see what happens.

What is the difference in the OT between murder and killing when it's clear that some taking of life were justified but others were not. Is murder all forms of killing in the bible? Or are there times when taking a life is NOT considered murder?

Prax instead of me typing out an encyclopedia for you, how about teaching your doctrine of self defence by using the New Testament, words of Jesus and His Apostles.

If you don't have any scriptures (which you indeed admitted.) you have no argument. Also I have produced scriptures that teach non-retaliation, you have produced no scriptures to prove that Jesus taught self defence.

I guess you must also believe that a baptism of titles father, son, Holy Ghost is also permissable? Prax' s Jesus taught non-retaliation. We are no longer told to stone unruly sons. The judgement is the Lord's.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

My father was an atheist and has never had his six daughters and two sons attacked or raped. Brother, I live in a neighborhood which isn't the safest, so what do you suggest? Should I move? Should I watch my family and never leave the house? It's called prayer Brother and faith that the Lord will protect all that He has given me. No problems about crack heads breaking in and killing my family. If it did happen I would use the same power that I use to cast out demons and that is JESUS NAME. Try it sometime Pentecostal, maybe it will work for you.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Makes one wonder how Jesus and His apostles could do what they did without one....

Peter had a sword to cut off a guards ear. Maybe Jesus should've said something to Peter for having a sword to begin with?????

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Peter had a sword to cut off a guards ear. Maybe Jesus should've said something to Peter for having a sword to begin with?????

Mat 26:52

"Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

This is what Jesus told Peter after the wounding of the guard.

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Mat 26:52

"Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

This is what Jesus told Peter after the wounding of the guard.

Exactly my point. Why didn't Jesus say something before Peter actually used it my friend?

Originally Posted by Lost and Found

Elder, please read this:

As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison. (Acts 8:3)

So again I ask you, what did these men do?

The question is a moot point.

You are able to get from this snipit that men did not seek to protect their home? A prejudiced mind has no problem assuming conclusions that is far from apparent.

Further, even if they did try to protect their homes, what could they do in the face of overwhelming force. Rest assured, Paul did not enter those homes alone. When he had his encounter with the Lord on the road to Damascus, he had quite a large entourage with him.

Tell me, how is it that the pacifist cannot be as zealous in the use of their weapons in protecting the house of God as Jesus was in using the weapons that he had in doing the same? How many broken arms and legs did he break when he turned over those very large and heavy tables onto the business men in the temple? How much blood do you suppose he let in using that vicious whip that he wove and laid it on those business men? Just how violent did he get being eaten up with his righteous zeal? Why is it that you think that anyone should be so timid and bashful when their example whom we are to emulate was far from being so timid?

Please quit avoiding my questions.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

The question is a moot point.

You are able to get from this snipit that men did not seek to protect their home? A prejudiced mind has no problem assuming conclusions that is far from apparent.

Further, even if they did try to protect their homes, what could they do in the face of overwhelming force. Rest assured, Paul did not enter those homes alone. When he had his encounter with the Lord on the road to Damascus, he had quite a large entourage with him.

Tell me, how is it that the pacifist cannot be as zealous in the use of their weapons in protecting the house of God as Jesus was in using the weapons that he had in doing the same? How many broken arms and legs did he break when he turned over those very large and heavy tables onto the business men in the temple? How much blood do you suppose he let in using that vicious whip that he wove and laid it on those business men? Just how violent did he get being eaten up with his righteous zeal? Why is it that you think that anyone should be so timid and bashful when their example whom we are to emulate was far from being so timid?

Please quit avoiding my questions.

Elder?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

My father was an atheist and has never had his six daughters and two sons attacked or raped.

So? Let me tell you the story of 4 Christian girls who were beheaded by Muslims...what does that prove?

Brother, I live in a neighborhood which isn't the safest, so what do you suggest? Should I move?

That's your business. But you can be sure if you owned a gun and someone broke in and you used it to defend your family, I would be the last one to condemn you.

It's called prayer Brother and faith that the Lord will protect all that He has given me.

Many prayerful people have been killed. Why not pray for food too and trust that God will deliver it to your door instead of going out? God expects you to do somethings too doesn't He? Do you have medical insurance? Home owners insurance? Renters insurance? Car insurance? Do you suppose that people that do have those never pray?

No problems about crack heads breaking in and killing my family. If it did happen I would use the same power that I use to cast out demons and that is JESUS NAME. Try it sometime Pentecostal, maybe it will work for you.

Paul cast out demons too. Did that prevent him from being attacked or harmed in any way?

Maybe others don't have the faith you have...however the sad thing is you don't realize how you are so far far away from being an encourager of other peoples faith. In fact when you come around some people around here would rather hide because your post do anything BUT encourage others to believe more. You know, your faith was never meant to be a weapon to beat over the head of other believers.

btw I have cast out demons too so your idiotic suggestion that Pentecostals that aren't like you don't pray is an example of why some people here just don't dialog with you,

And Yes, sometimes bad things happen to good people despite having a lot of faith and praying

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

The question is a moot point.

You are able to get from this snipit that men did not seek to protect their home? A prejudiced mind has no problem assuming conclusions that is far from apparent.

Further, even if they did try to protect their homes, what could they do in the face of overwhelming force. Rest assured, Paul did not enter those homes alone. When he had his encounter with the Lord on the road to Damascus, he had quite a large entourage with him.

Tell me, how is it that the pacifist cannot be as zealous in the use of their weapons in protecting the house of God as Jesus was in using the weapons that he had in doing the same? How many broken arms and legs did he break when he turned over those very large and heavy tables onto the business men in the temple? How much blood do you suppose he let in using that vicious whip that he wove and laid it on those business men? Just how violent did he get being eaten up with his righteous zeal? Why is it that you think that anyone should be so timid and bashful when their example whom we are to emulate was far from being so timid?

Please quit avoiding my questions.

This is too strange to warrant a response.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Exactly my point. Why didn't Jesus say something before Peter actually used it my friend?

Brother Eastman, Jesus shows us what He thought about Peter attacking his attackers. Your point answered.